Do we really need a captcha before replying in /lounge/? Marked for deletion (Old)
There was a time when the spam on lounge was often in the form of replies, which was constantly messing up the bump order. I don't know if that's still the case now
I think there was some changes in the centralized code heyuri is usingI will look into it l8r
It can be removed if kaguya wants, there was a change to the centralized part of koko. We await his descision, if he doesnt want, we create a 2nd captcha module which only works on new threads.The central koko recieved an update, so that all posts would require a captcha. This was because of medical and pharmacy spam on other koko textboards.
like image hash dbs or anything? if not, will there be a future implementation?would also be a good anti-raid measure since raiding with CP isn't uncommon - although i dont know what raiders think they achieve with it, authorities suck at getting rid of CPMarked for deletion (Old)
We primarily get it in the form of spam, which is more of a phishing/honeypot attempt than a raid. Whoever's behind it always distorts the images slightly each time, so a hash database unfortunately won't help much>i dont know what raiders think they achieve with itIn those cases it's usually part of false flag operation to get a site pulled by its host or domain registrar
>>62338thats a shame, wish there was some hashing system that didnt have the hash be completely different if a pixel is slightly off colour, and yet somehow still be irreversible
yo can we get some new boards like /e/ or /h/ or an /avg/(adult video games) in case you want to add a video games board? I don't want what happened with /v/ to happen here.Marked for deletion (Old)
>>62081Totally agreed, and that's what we've done for the most part - in addition to the boards we still have today, we've previously had "HeyuriRemix" which used a rare Ayashii World spinoff script I found, fixed up, and translated, we had /dating/ which was a "2-shot chat", we had "Yeah" which was "Yeah"...I've got tons of other ideas that I could start working on rite now - mainly for ancient 90s and early 2000s Japanese scripts that have never seen the light of day outside Japan - but sadly our current CGI/Perl server b0rkage issue is preventing us from doing most of those ideas (as well as being the reason that HeyuriRemix was scrapped). Worse still, the person in charge of our servers is adamant that it can't be helped when it almost certainly can
>>62081>>62085I agree as well.I want to run ancient Japanese CGI scripts with Heyuri too, but as as 62085-san told, our server host claims we can't run Perl scripts He admitted that may be solvable, but another (bigger) reason is that scripts in question are open to vulnerabilities. He is already enough gracious for letting me host Heyuri on his servers for free, so I can't really push to run scripts with potential security issues on important servers... Before you ask, I can't afford a web server myself to point some subdomain of Heyuri either Like on /sw/ and /o/, if there are well-maintained PHP scripts that may interest us, we have no problem with hosting them though
>>62050Newfag here, saw heyuri getting advertised on 4chan/v/, found it weird that there is no vidya board here.Not saying I want one, but I guess others might be confused too. Also cool site man, kinda nostalgic with the noko in email field and no catalog.
>>62334 there is a catalog
>>62335oh fuck I'm blind
The current fortunes are all pretty depressing - I think there needs to be some balancing I don't remember what all the fortunes were on our previous software (kuz or someone else with access to those files will have to reveal), but here's what they were on the Sakomoto software before that:Bad LuckAverage LuckGood LuckExcellent LuckReply hazy, try againGodly LuckVery Bad LuckOutlook goodBetter not tell you nowYou will meet a dark handsome strangerｷﾀ━━━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━━━ !!!!（ ´_ゝ`）ﾌｰﾝ Good news will come to you by mailI think some or all of these were on the later software, but there was also additional ones liek the legendary "LOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOL[...]" and others I'm forgettingMarked for deletion (Old)
you can modify the fortunes in koko on the github ^_^
>you can modify the fortunes in koko on the github ^_^Yeah, but first I'd have to learn how to use github How is that set up anyway - do changes to the code on github automatically go live on Heyuri? is there some kind of automated update schedule? or do you have to initiate an update manually?
>>62321>do changes to the code on github automatically go live on Heyuri?No, you can create a pull request and then it needs to be approved, and then they'd have to update kokonotsuba with the new code, at least i guess that's how it works
>>62320This is correct1. You make the change and request it to get applied on the repository (pull request)2. I see and ask an ex-koko dev if it's safe to apply3. I merge the pull request to the repo if it's safe4. I update it on Heyuri when I am availableIt would help to have another trusted dev who could verify stuff. By "trusted" I don't only mean normal users without ill intent, but also running their kokonotsuba instance with the exact stack as we are using for Heyuri and verify the changes can be applied without causing any issues
>>62324why not use github actions
I went to bed, and when I woke up, my IP was not listed on spam.kolyma, why?I have done nothing wrong, I have received no warning, I have received not a single ban in my entire stay here on Heyuri, the only thing that comes to mind is that yesterday someone stole the 33K GET, and I complained and accused Kuz of doing it, because to me he seemed the most likely person, is that why? I don't see why else I would be permanently banned like thatSome people, I assume Kuz trying to get people mad at me, claimed I was the one wojakposting, since one guy on their website seems to have attached Mechazawa to one of his wojaks, but can you not see that that's just someone trying to ruin my image? someone trying to corrupt Heyuri's culture? I came here, firstly, when someone posted about StrawberryHeaven on [s4s], and then, after staying there for a while, I left when an anon on /g/ told me the truth about KuzI came back last year when another anon on /g/ told me that Kuz was gone, and that a new better owner was in place, I even have the thread, you can see it right here, https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/90558006/#90561787After coming back, I have done many things, I didn't want to list all the things I've done because I feel like It's shoving it on people's faces how cool I am, but I guess I have to use them in my defenseI have- Created at least 2 banners, the Pascal one and the Mechazawa one, you could count the FKMT Zero one and the GMOD 9 one since I made them on the strawberryheaven era-Advertised Heyuri, causing the new surge of users (this could be seen as a bad thing, but I assure you it was done in nothing but good faith, I do have a VPN, which I am using to make this post right here, but I have always only used it to avoid bans on 4chan, since they happen so often)- I was the one who wrote both the littlealice.exe creepypasta and the "I want to have sex with Mod-sama" post, (well I hope the reason for my ban Isn't mod-sama being mad at me )- I have also made many threads with tons of replies like the cryptid threads which I find very fun since they're about a niche interest I really likeヽ(´ー｀)ノ anyways, I guess that should be enough proof I am NOT the spammer? I really wanted to get the 33K GET with Mechazawa too, made me sad that I lost it, anyways, this is my appeal, please do give me a reply instead of just deleting it, I'm posting this on a VPN because well, I can't really do anything about it can I? Marked for deletion (Old)
>>62325>I think it would be best to just go back to enforcing "don't post meta outside /q/”Feel free to. I didn't reply the last time you brought it up hoping others would, but I am for it.>His demand for us to delete one half of (or the entirety of) all kuz-related discussions is itself controversialBut this is simply the situation we are in, discussing about this with me won't bring you anywhere >The phrase was "Heyuri is not a kuz site",It was a reference to a certain post of lolico and your(?) reply to it during an ancient drama
>Feel free to. I didn't reply the last time you brought it up hoping others would, but I am for it.Then let it be known:THOU SHALT NOT POST META OUTSIDE /Q/*!!!!1*Light/casual/fun stuff is generally exempt, this is mainly just for Serious Business discussions/questions/complaints/rants/etc.>But this is simply the situation we are in, discussing about this with me won't bring you anywhereBelieve in urself, admin-san! >It was a reference to a certain post of lolico and your(?) reply to it during an ancient drama2020 was a very different time, and the kuz I was a fan of was a very different kuz A huge part of Heyuri culture up to that point was centered around celebrating the guy keeping all the Rule 8 out and doing fun things with us, and kuz was seen to be the hero thwarting lolico's then-increasing tyrannical no-fun behavior
>>62323Well that's depressing, but understandable, I'll deal with it>I think Heyuri itself has suffered from it for the past two days as well, it fell from average of 300+ to less than 150 just one dayProbably because I stopped advertising it I think a lot of people also only came back because Kuz was gone so... but well being slow isn't so bad I guess, once Kuz leaves for good I'll advertise it daily again ┐(´∇`)┌Well I won't post about Kuz on /b/ again, and I will probably turn down on discussing him at all on /q/ as well, I just hope you all understand that his existence is absolutely 100% detrimental to Heyuri's development and that as soon as a opportunity arises for you or someone else to start paying for Heyuri's bills you should take it ASAP
>>62328>as soon as a opportunity arises for you or someone else to start paying for Heyuri's bills you should take it ASAPI'd be happy to, except...1. I don't know how much it costs (things may have to downgrade significantly or be dropped, if it's even possible for me to afford it at all)2. I'm a n00b at server admin stuff (currently teaching myself)3. A lot of things that are legal in "Atlantis" are illegal in my country4. I don't want to accidentally dox or partyv& myself That's why at the very least I can respect kuz for hosting Heyuri, because it's not just a case of having the funds It's not something that usually works, but maybe kaguya could set up some kind of DONATE OR DIE KUZ STAYS fund
>4. I don't want to accidentally dox or partyv& myselfI am not very knowledgeable either, what are the risks of that? Is it not possible to buy some VPS and domains with fake names?>3. A lot of things that are legal in "Atlantis" are illegal in my countryI am pretty sure you don't need to host it in your country - the best option after Kolyma is probably those "bullet-proof" hosts.Because I am sure Turkey isn't a good place to host Heyuri either >fundWay too risky to depend on. What if it fails to meet the quota needed to pay for the host suddenly? Paying bills in USD with Turkish lira isn't a viable option in long term, at least until getting a job
Before it's too late and I get accused for not being transparent, there is a little thing I want to make clear: There are few features (modules) on Heyuri that can't be made public on the Github version. The reason is, these modules mostly consist of KolymaNET's centralized code, which isn't really unique to Kokonotsuba.These modules are (at least ones that aren't depreciated/still in use on Heyuri):1. KaptchaWhat you see on /lounge/ now to create threads. Kaptcha is currently the only type of captcha that can be used on Kokonotsuba. I am open to replace it if an alternative is developed.2. VIPWell, this is not really important, but including here for the sake of transparency. Users with a VIP code can post with a star next to their names, and bypass kaptcha. I am not saying anything on if I will leave this on Heyuri or abandon in the future for now.3. SpamDBIntegration with https://spam.kolyma.org/spam.php - more explanation there.I don't really want to abandon this until an alternative gets developed, but this may possibly cause conflicts as Kokonotsuba gets development updates.Marked for deletion (Old)
>it also needs to use Kolyma's secret password hashing methodIt's not that secret - I worked out the method and salt in about 5 minutes, and I'm the furthest thing from a cryptographer. It should really be changed
considering the willingness of people to contribute to heyuri, hopefully we can replace those modules with open source alternatives soon
>>62297These are the kinds of knowledge/awareness the you know whos exploit to spam you know what and destroy alternative imageboards.Be careful.
>>62307I can barely code at all It's really not that advanced - my experience tinkering with a few old Japanese BBS scripts from the 90s and early-2000s that worked the same way is what tipped me off (that alone should tell you how unrecommended this method is...), and there's some additional major giveawaysNow despite it being an archaic and unrecommended method, just knowing how it works still doesn't help much with cracking leaked hashed passwords or brute forcing the login field... so shouldn't it just be open source? (obviously with different default parameters to what Heyuri is using, and not hosting a public version for people to see what our parameters are)
>>62308wait so heyuri doesnt even utilize the php password() function??
If it isn't available, is there another altchan for real life gore? ThanksMarked for deletion (Old)
Sorry I have no idea about any of that...But as a sidenote you should probably ask this question in /lounge/ or /sw/, or even /b/.This board is called 'site discussion' because it's for the discussion of Heyuri as a site, not because it's for discussion of internet sites as a whole
>>62303I asked here because Gorechan is/was under Kolyma's umbrella as seen here https://g3.kolyma.org/Thanks for your recommendation regardless.
Somebody can move this thread if so desired
>>62303 is right, this thread don't belong here.But that you asked, I think the files are still at host, but it was getting too much spam (including CP) for me to moderate alone, so shut down indefinitely. Maybe I can see if it's possible to host it without allowing posts, as an archive sometime so people can recover some images they likedI don't know any other imageboards like gorechan myself, and Heyuri isn't really the right place to ask
dear kaguyacould we have a board for science and technology? doesnt have to be seperate ones. i want to be able to nerd out with fellow physics and coding heyurians thanx, anonMarked for deletion (Old)
new user are necessary for growth and survival, but it has to be done in such a way that it goes slow and steady. User are the content creator after all and can easily over stear and lose what make heyuri- heyuri.let people do some work to get here, some sort of puzzle to solve, with tiny bits of informations. Spread that shit and does who are a little bit more... mature? find their way. i will think of this.
>>62199Puzzles are not fun
There should be some interesting script that could be used for a scientific board on Heyuri...
>>62206I think having different gimmicks for every board just for the sake of having different gimmicks is kind of dumb(´～`)
BUMP!!!!111
personally, my no1, i wouldn't add a 'feature' per-se, but more of like making the kokonotsuba code more readable and documented. that would make it easier to contribute and understand the code if ur a dummy like me Marked for deletion (Old)
...and the return of the Overboard, but would also be versatile enough that it can also display Strange World posts, Oekaki posts, etc.
>the ability for mods to append a message to posts/replies without triggering a real ban or warningYou can do that by changing the IP addresses at the "IP Addr:" field to something like "1"
>You can do that by changing the IP addresses at the "IP Addr:" field to something like "1"...I knew that *adds "improved ban instructions on ban page" to list*
Here are the labels on the repository, I made an "idea" label for your such ideas.Who knows, maybe some leet developer will liek your idea and work on it
>>62282mods can append messages and warnings on posts without being banned.like that one post that had a "THIS USER HAS BEEN RED TEXT'D" or something, it wasnt a ban either... i would kno cuz it was me
Am I the only one who can't interact with the reference links on HHS?Marked for deletion (Old)
Yeah it's b0rked, I think it's just the citations in the article need cleaning up but I was too tired to do it when I noticed
Actually now that I look into it, the reference sections on all pages are messed up due to the CSS in ".mw-references-wrap" I don't know what's causing it or how to fix it, somebody pls send help!!
>>62294I can put some custom CSS for that to https://wiki.heyuri.net/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css and it would override the default
As you read it in the newspost. Discuss under hereMarked for deletion (Old)
>>62263how does it display the .tpl files? im a bit of a newb so it just might mean you set up some other stuff, but i dont see any code for assigning variables, etc to the smarty parser
I think my webhost is too up-to-date with PHP to run koko.php. Errors on the right are from when I tried to run koko.php. This is where I was stuck last night when I gave upLeft is the env.php
An important note...Kokonotsuba is designed and tested on debian 10, nginx, mariadb, and php7.3, and isn't guaranteed to work on any other stack.
>>62266It turns out you had to go here (https://sys.kolyma.net/passwd.php), then put the hashed password into ADMIN_HASH to make it work.Now everything works flawlessly.>I then chowned the script to www-dataDefinitely don't do this in a real environment (imo).>>62287definitely very good to knowThis concludes my saga on trying out Kokonotsuba.
>>62288russian kolyma backdoor lol
is a good portion of it still kokonutsuba? or is it free from its shacklespic unrel, just need to put a file to post in this board for some reasonMarked for deletion (Old)
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After being invited to a private chat with kaguya and kuz, a lot of things I brought up ITT haven been resolved, cleared up, or is now seriously outdated/WRONG information (on all sides, but particularly mine)I'd also liek to publicly apologize to kaguya and the rest of Heyuri for initiating and contributing towards this thread turning into an ugly flame-filled dramafest, and to apologize to kuz specifically for bringing up things about him unrelated to OP's question (or anything that anyone else posted ITT) - purely so I could let off steam about personal/private issues I had with him that really didn't need to be aired out in the openThis was honestly my fault to begin, because I generally keep myself in the dark by avoiding various channels and never reaching out to kuz or kaguya, and I just came up with my own theories based off what limited amount I could see on the boards (which also lead to kuz and kaguya doing the same towards me, because there was often limited ways to contact me) I'm aware that it sounds like I've got a gun to my head after everything I said before (I assure you I do not - in fact I started typing this before we even spoke privately!), but I do genuinely appreciate kuz's thankless contributions towards Heyuri's continued existence, even if we don't always see eye to eye. Ultimately, I just wanted the whole situation about kuz, kokonotsuba, and Heyuri to be more transparent... and if what kuz has announced to me and kaguya in private is true, it's about to be VERY transparent Finally, while I'm the last person who should be saying this, I srsly hope that us 3 Heyuri oldbies - who all care a lot about this silly little site on teh interwebs - can go back to being on friendly, productive terms again (kaguya, pls roll teh credits)
>haven been resolvedHAVE BEEN RESOLVED, HAVE. GOD FUCKING DAMMIT
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Apology = Accepted With this being left behind, we can move forward and continue working on making Heyuri even more awesome I am closing this thread now. There will be an important (in a good way) announcement soon, so look forward to it!
What site is this?Marked for deletion (Old)
I can't find anything about it, I'm inclined to think it's just a mock-up
>>62150Nope ヽ(´ー｀)ノ
https://4taba.net/board/fun?page=1huhit seems they don't know it either
>>62177I'm pretty sure it's just some guy posting a local-only thing he's made
kusane dial-up BBSes still exist right? "textboards" suck, I want the real deal!
Something has to be done about the pedospammer on /b/ ASAPJust a couple of hours in and now he's derailing every thread he's in. Let the b&hammer roll plsMarked for deletion (Old)
>>62167I'll still respond to him because I'm a nice guy, but I think the consent debate threads are gay and provide no lulz. Also the only thread I've seen derailed so far was that manga one, where some guy just says "fuck pedos" out of nowhere, and then it caused a shortlived feud. But honestly, out of all the threads to derail, I'm glad it was that one. No offense to the OP of that one, but I'm a little biased towards OC centered threads myself. If spammers started fucking with those, I'd be a little pissed.
>>62156Agreed
As you guessed, it was one troll that evades bans. Rest assured that he is banned, but looks like he caused some havoc while I was asleep. Please ignore him if his posts aren't deleted immediately, so you wouldn't be accidentally helping him to derail threads.
>>62172Thank you Kaguya
I'd liek to propose reviving/reinforcing the rule about "don't post meta outside of /q/", which we've ignored since the lolico days It would just be for more Serious Business discussions/suggestions/complaints/shitflinging over Heyuri's operation and situation, not casual mentions of Heyuri, Heyuri staff members, Heyuri users, etc.
Can we have the option to report posts that break the rules please?Marked for deletion (Old)
>>62108Is the software open source? I could take a look and see if I can implement a report feature. It doesn't sound too difficult (last words)
>>62109it isnt
>>62109Damn well I'm not too good with PHP, so I don't want to waste your time and not be able to deliver. I use JavaScript at work
>>62108table with columns for post id and weight (no. of reports of the post)add a button on every post to report it, if its not in the sql table, add it - if it is, increase the weight by one (check if IP is different)i dont think it would be too difficult to make
Unless it spawned a bat-signal that alerted Kaguya of posts that break the rules when he's off-line, then i don't think a report feature is necessary right nowspam attacks are, well, quite apparent. Furthermore, even on /b/ posts are made at a rate where there's a lot of time for it to be delt with. That holds true without considering that the userbase tends to call out anything that goes against the balance of the echosystemA report feature will only be needed when rule-breaking posts are frequent and abundant. It is true that a huge influx of users might threaten to make the aformentioned statement true, but only if we first neglect those kind of posts during the current stage of the site