Is this really the type of userbase we want to cultivate? I almost thought I was in /int/ or /pol/ for a second.
i dont like fighting, which makes me indifferent to all sides. there are no lulz Σ(;ﾟДﾟ)
>>62458 I don't like fighting either, I want Heyuri to be the easiest place on the interwebs
>so, I propose something: filter Kuz's name and any discussion about him, and then pretend he isn't associated with the website anymoreThat is effectively exactly what kaguya had been doing for months until that big longpost thread between him and I recently That all started because I was growing increasingly concerned about how far the convenient narrative/white lie of "kuz is no longer involved with Heyuri, he's not here anymore" had deviated from the truth of the situation. I could see it having a terrible impact on Heyuri later down the road when those who were here specifically because they were under the impression that kuz was gone were to inevitably find out that he was still around to some extent - so in a rash decision and the heat of the moment, I tore the bandaid off hoping to resolve things early before the new/returning users could get too comfortable, hoping to minimize the potential outrage/devastation Obviously this has upset the peace and caused some pandemonium (for which I do take a fair amount of responsibility for and apologize), but I do believe it was inevitable given the circumstances - and I think all of this will inevitably happen again should we go back to pretending kuz is gone when he's not I know it's not fun for anyone, but I honestly believe it's for the best that we keep transparent and don't try to "swindle" potential/returning users - if they have a deep-seated hatred of kuz (or anyone else here for that matter), it's better if they're aware of the involvement so they don't come in with false hopes and expectations, which will only lead to further disappointment, distrust, and bitterness (also quick sidenote: I'm not the only one that uses the mod capcode and ID, and I typically only use it when I think it's necessary or if I think it would be funny, so don't assume it's always me. For transparency, my only post ITT before now was >>62424 )
>>62460 what do you suggest to fix this then mod-sama? I feel like most people would be ok with the escapism of pretending Kuz doesn't exist
>>62461This may be a little too "insider baseball", but if you look at the wider trajectory, it's pretty clear that kuz's involvements with Heyuri (not including the random Rule 8 stuff he posts and his recent "less than effective" efforts to defend his name in the current climate) have been steadily decreasing - both through kuz's own waning interest in Heyuri, and through kaguya's many (but often unseen) behind-the-scenes efforts to de-kolyma-ize Heyuri and to complete the remainder of the transition of full ownership from kuz to himNow, putting any friendship they might have for each other aside, it's clear that in order for kaguya (or anyone) to one day own Heyuri in its entirety (and thus kuz having no involvement whatsoever), he must remain in kuz's good books and maintain a certain level of mutual trust and respect before kuz even considers. Just think - if I or some random person were to contact kuz, point bananagun at head, and say "ALL YOUR HEYURI ARE BELONG TO US", he'd just LOL and ignore it, right?The point here is that kuz is never going to give Heyuri to anyone who just asks/demands for it, so diplomacy, politics, and tact are required (or just being friends - that helps too!). Aggression, wild accusations, and calls for revolts/coups are totally useless and ineffective - not to mention they turn Heyuri into a warzone While I'd be the first to admit that it's very easy to get worked up about kuz and view some of his various actions (whether real or rumored) as "ruining Heyuri", we all have to keep in mind (me especially) that our responses to/about him can equally ruin Heyuri, and can stop the site from being fun for everyone elseNow, this isn't to say we should all just let kuz and kaguya be totally unaccountable and rule over Heyuri with an iron b&hammer - I think they've individually overstepped the mark and exacerbated the situation just as much as certain users and I have, with the careless overuse of b&hammer and the needless antagonizing/ostracizing of certain users in ways that were completely avoidable. I think changes to the current moderation policy (...there isn't one LOL) should be made so that Heyuri doesn't end up making any more enemies out of allies, and so situations like this don't end up going this far, for this longI'd also like to extend an olive branch to you (assuming you're the anonymous who's been the most vocal about your thoughts on Heyuri meta lately), and ask if you'd be open to a private discussion with me on XMPP (or wherever is convenient for both of us... I'm not very convenient ) where we can discuss Heyuri, your issues, hopefully learn some things/reach some middle ground, discuss PENIS, etc. - if you're interested that is. I'll warn you now though that I'm a shitty and awkward conversationalist
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Here's sum historic data, for teh n00bs
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Is there a reason why clicking this button just brings up the image in it's own tab instead of bringing up a download prompt? Is this something that should be fixed?
it will be fixed soon
Current state of Heyuri shows that kaguya is the worst fucking mod
Kaguya is the best mod for being able to keep the retard on a leash
>>62404kaguya's decent but he's not ideal. He's still associated with you-know-who. Hopefully our next admin will give us a fresh start(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
>>62405>Hopefully our next adminI want to believe
Stop spamming /q/ with some words you learn from /pol/ I don't want users thinking I am deleting posts that's not hugging me, but I also have a good idea what kind of poster you are by your previous bans. If users have a valid criticism (you don't need to be polite either, but raging without providing reasons isn't any constructive) against me, I'll take that as an opportunity to improve myself - but clearly you are trying to create some artificial drama, so git B& (again)
posting anything on b just gives you a http error 500
How do you report posts
Can't. And the mods r sleep it seems. Cp bait post staying up for over 1 hour now
Well fuck, that sucks.
Yeah there should be a way to report iilegal shit
See >>62103
ive been trying to learn perl, and have been suffering... a LOT learning it and it made me remember the convo between kaguya & mod-sama abt perl on some VPS he boughti guess its a dumb question but what will perl bring to the site? other than running scripts on webpages and shit like that
>other than running scripts on webpages and shit like that...that's it In my travels through the Japanese web, I fell in love with all the awesome and obscure (to us) scripts that made up the Japanese web in the 90s and 2000s - I've long thought it would be kewl to bring some of them over to Heyuri like we did KuzuhaScriptPHP+, HeyuriRemix, etc., but... it turns out that 90% of Japanese scripts from that era use CGI/Perl, and Perl is b0rked on Heyuri's current servers Pic related is what my spruced-up version of the Jidou Enquete Sakusei script currently looks like. It's kinda liek /vote/, but users add the options they're voting for themselves along with a comment. Each poll is like its own little board, with each vote option being like its own little thread that you can open up and comment in. All the functionality of poal.me with all the style (and code quality) of 1997!
When i try to post with my normal IP it now gives me this message.Your post could not be submitted due to the contents of your post or your IP adress being listed @ spam.kolyma.org
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>>62348There was a reply but it got deleted. It would be nice if i could get an answer cause i am not the spammer.
>>62364Kaguya still hasn't unbanned you? the answer was given in that one reply
>>62365>Kaguya still hasn't unbanned you?No.>the answer was given in that one replySomeone had a meltdown?
Very sorry for thatPlease mail me your (ipv4) IP at kaguya@kolyma.netAlternatively you can use the tripcode mail thingy on /b/
Do we really need a captcha before replying in /lounge/?
There was a time when the spam on lounge was often in the form of replies, which was constantly messing up the bump order. I don't know if that's still the case now
I think there was some changes in the centralized code heyuri is usingI will look into it l8r
It can be removed if kaguya wants, there was a change to the centralized part of koko. We await his descision, if he doesnt want, we create a 2nd captcha module which only works on new threads.The central koko recieved an update, so that all posts would require a captcha. This was because of medical and pharmacy spam on other koko textboards.
like image hash dbs or anything? if not, will there be a future implementation?would also be a good anti-raid measure since raiding with CP isn't uncommon - although i dont know what raiders think they achieve with it, authorities suck at getting rid of CP
We primarily get it in the form of spam, which is more of a phishing/honeypot attempt than a raid. Whoever's behind it always distorts the images slightly each time, so a hash database unfortunately won't help much>i dont know what raiders think they achieve with itIn those cases it's usually part of false flag operation to get a site pulled by its host or domain registrar
>>62338thats a shame, wish there was some hashing system that didnt have the hash be completely different if a pixel is slightly off colour, and yet somehow still be irreversible
yo can we get some new boards like /e/ or /h/ or an /avg/(adult video games) in case you want to add a video games board? I don't want what happened with /v/ to happen here.
>>62081Totally agreed, and that's what we've done for the most part - in addition to the boards we still have today, we've previously had "HeyuriRemix" which used a rare Ayashii World spinoff script I found, fixed up, and translated, we had /dating/ which was a "2-shot chat", we had "Yeah" which was "Yeah"...I've got tons of other ideas that I could start working on rite now - mainly for ancient 90s and early 2000s Japanese scripts that have never seen the light of day outside Japan - but sadly our current CGI/Perl server b0rkage issue is preventing us from doing most of those ideas (as well as being the reason that HeyuriRemix was scrapped). Worse still, the person in charge of our servers is adamant that it can't be helped when it almost certainly can
>>62081>>62085I agree as well.I want to run ancient Japanese CGI scripts with Heyuri too, but as as 62085-san told, our server host claims we can't run Perl scripts He admitted that may be solvable, but another (bigger) reason is that scripts in question are open to vulnerabilities. He is already enough gracious for letting me host Heyuri on his servers for free, so I can't really push to run scripts with potential security issues on important servers... Before you ask, I can't afford a web server myself to point some subdomain of Heyuri either Like on /sw/ and /o/, if there are well-maintained PHP scripts that may interest us, we have no problem with hosting them though
>>62050Newfag here, saw heyuri getting advertised on 4chan/v/, found it weird that there is no vidya board here.Not saying I want one, but I guess others might be confused too. Also cool site man, kinda nostalgic with the noko in email field and no catalog.
>>62334 there is a catalog
>>62335oh fuck I'm blind
The current fortunes are all pretty depressing - I think there needs to be some balancing I don't remember what all the fortunes were on our previous software (kuz or someone else with access to those files will have to reveal), but here's what they were on the Sakomoto software before that:Bad LuckAverage LuckGood LuckExcellent LuckReply hazy, try againGodly LuckVery Bad LuckOutlook goodBetter not tell you nowYou will meet a dark handsome strangerｷﾀ━━━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━━━ !!!!（ ´_ゝ`）ﾌｰﾝ Good news will come to you by mailI think some or all of these were on the later software, but there was also additional ones liek the legendary "LOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOL[...]" and others I'm forgetting
you can modify the fortunes in koko on the github ^_^
>you can modify the fortunes in koko on the github ^_^Yeah, but first I'd have to learn how to use github How is that set up anyway - do changes to the code on github automatically go live on Heyuri? is there some kind of automated update schedule? or do you have to initiate an update manually?
>>62321>do changes to the code on github automatically go live on Heyuri?No, you can create a pull request and then it needs to be approved, and then they'd have to update kokonotsuba with the new code, at least i guess that's how it works
>>62320This is correct1. You make the change and request it to get applied on the repository (pull request)2. I see and ask an ex-koko dev if it's safe to apply3. I merge the pull request to the repo if it's safe4. I update it on Heyuri when I am availableIt would help to have another trusted dev who could verify stuff. By "trusted" I don't only mean normal users without ill intent, but also running their kokonotsuba instance with the exact stack as we are using for Heyuri and verify the changes can be applied without causing any issues
>>62324why not use github actions
I went to bed, and when I woke up, my IP was not listed on spam.kolyma, why?I have done nothing wrong, I have received no warning, I have received not a single ban in my entire stay here on Heyuri, the only thing that comes to mind is that yesterday someone stole the 33K GET, and I complained and accused Kuz of doing it, because to me he seemed the most likely person, is that why? I don't see why else I would be permanently banned like thatSome people, I assume Kuz trying to get people mad at me, claimed I was the one wojakposting, since one guy on their website seems to have attached Mechazawa to one of his wojaks, but can you not see that that's just someone trying to ruin my image? someone trying to corrupt Heyuri's culture? I came here, firstly, when someone posted about StrawberryHeaven on [s4s], and then, after staying there for a while, I left when an anon on /g/ told me the truth about KuzI came back last year when another anon on /g/ told me that Kuz was gone, and that a new better owner was in place, I even have the thread, you can see it right here, https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/90558006/#90561787After coming back, I have done many things, I didn't want to list all the things I've done because I feel like It's shoving it on people's faces how cool I am, but I guess I have to use them in my defenseI have- Created at least 2 banners, the Pascal one and the Mechazawa one, you could count the FKMT Zero one and the GMOD 9 one since I made them on the strawberryheaven era-Advertised Heyuri, causing the new surge of users (this could be seen as a bad thing, but I assure you it was done in nothing but good faith, I do have a VPN, which I am using to make this post right here, but I have always only used it to avoid bans on 4chan, since they happen so often)- I was the one who wrote both the littlealice.exe creepypasta and the "I want to have sex with Mod-sama" post, (well I hope the reason for my ban Isn't mod-sama being mad at me )- I have also made many threads with tons of replies like the cryptid threads which I find very fun since they're about a niche interest I really likeヽ(´ー｀)ノ anyways, I guess that should be enough proof I am NOT the spammer? I really wanted to get the 33K GET with Mechazawa too, made me sad that I lost it, anyways, this is my appeal, please do give me a reply instead of just deleting it, I'm posting this on a VPN because well, I can't really do anything about it can I?
>>62325>I think it would be best to just go back to enforcing "don't post meta outside /q/”Feel free to. I didn't reply the last time you brought it up hoping others would, but I am for it.>His demand for us to delete one half of (or the entirety of) all kuz-related discussions is itself controversialBut this is simply the situation we are in, discussing about this with me won't bring you anywhere >The phrase was "Heyuri is not a kuz site",It was a reference to a certain post of lolico and your(?) reply to it during an ancient drama
>Feel free to. I didn't reply the last time you brought it up hoping others would, but I am for it.Then let it be known:THOU SHALT NOT POST META OUTSIDE /Q/*!!!!1*Light/casual/fun stuff is generally exempt, this is mainly just for Serious Business discussions/questions/complaints/rants/etc.>But this is simply the situation we are in, discussing about this with me won't bring you anywhereBelieve in urself, admin-san! >It was a reference to a certain post of lolico and your(?) reply to it during an ancient drama2020 was a very different time, and the kuz I was a fan of was a very different kuz A huge part of Heyuri culture up to that point was centered around celebrating the guy keeping all the Rule 8 out and doing fun things with us, and kuz was seen to be the hero thwarting lolico's then-increasing tyrannical no-fun behavior
>>62323Well that's depressing, but understandable, I'll deal with it>I think Heyuri itself has suffered from it for the past two days as well, it fell from average of 300+ to less than 150 just one dayProbably because I stopped advertising it I think a lot of people also only came back because Kuz was gone so... but well being slow isn't so bad I guess, once Kuz leaves for good I'll advertise it daily again ┐(´∇`)┌Well I won't post about Kuz on /b/ again, and I will probably turn down on discussing him at all on /q/ as well, I just hope you all understand that his existence is absolutely 100% detrimental to Heyuri's development and that as soon as a opportunity arises for you or someone else to start paying for Heyuri's bills you should take it ASAP
>>62328>as soon as a opportunity arises for you or someone else to start paying for Heyuri's bills you should take it ASAPI'd be happy to, except...1. I don't know how much it costs (things may have to downgrade significantly or be dropped, if it's even possible for me to afford it at all)2. I'm a n00b at server admin stuff (currently teaching myself)3. A lot of things that are legal in "Atlantis" are illegal in my country4. I don't want to accidentally dox or partyv& myself That's why at the very least I can respect kuz for hosting Heyuri, because it's not just a case of having the funds It's not something that usually works, but maybe kaguya could set up some kind of DONATE OR DIE KUZ STAYS fund
>4. I don't want to accidentally dox or partyv& myselfI am not very knowledgeable either, what are the risks of that? Is it not possible to buy some VPS and domains with fake names?>3. A lot of things that are legal in "Atlantis" are illegal in my countryI am pretty sure you don't need to host it in your country - the best option after Kolyma is probably those "bullet-proof" hosts.Because I am sure Turkey isn't a good place to host Heyuri either >fundWay too risky to depend on. What if it fails to meet the quota needed to pay for the host suddenly? Paying bills in USD with Turkish lira isn't a viable option in long term, at least until getting a job
Before it's too late and I get accused for not being transparent, there is a little thing I want to make clear: There are few features (modules) on Heyuri that can't be made public on the Github version. The reason is, these modules mostly consist of KolymaNET's centralized code, which isn't really unique to Kokonotsuba.These modules are (at least ones that aren't depreciated/still in use on Heyuri):1. KaptchaWhat you see on /lounge/ now to create threads. Kaptcha is currently the only type of captcha that can be used on Kokonotsuba. I am open to replace it if an alternative is developed.2. VIPWell, this is not really important, but including here for the sake of transparency. Users with a VIP code can post with a star next to their names, and bypass kaptcha. I am not saying anything on if I will leave this on Heyuri or abandon in the future for now.3. SpamDBIntegration with https://spam.kolyma.org/spam.php - more explanation there.I don't really want to abandon this until an alternative gets developed, but this may possibly cause conflicts as Kokonotsuba gets development updates.
>it also needs to use Kolyma's secret password hashing methodIt's not that secret - I worked out the method and salt in about 5 minutes, and I'm the furthest thing from a cryptographer. It should really be changed
considering the willingness of people to contribute to heyuri, hopefully we can replace those modules with open source alternatives soon
>>62297These are the kinds of knowledge/awareness the you know whos exploit to spam you know what and destroy alternative imageboards.Be careful.
>>62307I can barely code at all It's really not that advanced - my experience tinkering with a few old Japanese BBS scripts from the 90s and early-2000s that worked the same way is what tipped me off (that alone should tell you how unrecommended this method is...), and there's some additional major giveawaysNow despite it being an archaic and unrecommended method, just knowing how it works still doesn't help much with cracking leaked hashed passwords or brute forcing the login field... so shouldn't it just be open source? (obviously with different default parameters to what Heyuri is using, and not hosting a public version for people to see what our parameters are)
>>62308wait so heyuri doesnt even utilize the php password() function??
If it isn't available, is there another altchan for real life gore? Thanks
Sorry I have no idea about any of that...But as a sidenote you should probably ask this question in /lounge/ or /sw/, or even /b/.This board is called 'site discussion' because it's for the discussion of Heyuri as a site, not because it's for discussion of internet sites as a whole
>>62303I asked here because Gorechan is/was under Kolyma's umbrella as seen here https://g3.kolyma.org/Thanks for your recommendation regardless.
Somebody can move this thread if so desired
>>62303 is right, this thread don't belong here.But that you asked, I think the files are still at host, but it was getting too much spam (including CP) for me to moderate alone, so shut down indefinitely. Maybe I can see if it's possible to host it without allowing posts, as an archive sometime so people can recover some images they likedI don't know any other imageboards like gorechan myself, and Heyuri isn't really the right place to ask