first off. IMO its risky to have that board even, because it ALWAYS attracts bad ppl + bad attention eventually, but w/e im OK with just not going to that board myself.but /b/ is basically /l/-lite. every 3rd thread is loli pron. like, its technically random sure....no offense, but /b/ would be better even if it was more dead, but had more variety on first page. average ppl are only gonna visit, look at page 0, see 50% loli pron dump and leave again anyways
average heyurizen goes to b dumps loli pron and leaves
>any chance of a sfw /b/Noep>keeping the ped stuff in /l/If it's just a plain loli art/pr0n thread then it could be moved to /c/ or /l/, but the Move Thread function is currently b0rked until we upgrade the backend (hopefully in the near future)I for one have long been bored as hell with the bajillions of pedo-related threads on Off-Topic per month, and I preferred it when it was a more LOLs-oriented board, but there's little I can do about it without banning half the users, site staff, and kaguya himself >/b/ would be better even if it was more dead, but had more variety on first pageIt would be even betterer if it was moar active AND had more variety!
Heyuri is not strictly a rorikon website - Our Off-Topic board is housing bunch of adult (JK+) ero as well!Looking at the first page, only thread that bats to my eye is faganon's Muhammed threadI think everyone who has a problem with anything else on the front page of Off-Topic either thinks too deeply about what others are fapping to, cares too much about contemporary western ethics, or just too new to the internet I also think there are hardly any "pedo-related" threads on Heyuri anyways, at least not enough to be called "bajillions". Maybe it's something ur not used to see elsewhere, so your selective perception makes u think a higher percentage of the existing threads even include a loli pic in them? Out of 50 newest threads on Off-Topic, I see- faganon's muhammed thread: https://img.heyuri.net/b/koko.php?res=130104- roripantsu onigiri thread: https://img.heyuri.net/b/koko.php?res=130055- a no-reply minami-ke pantsu's image's thread: https://img.heyuri.net/b/koko.php?res=130046- a thread with an onegai twins image: https://img.heyuri.net/b/koko.php?res=129970- finally 49th thread is about fat loli, only thread I'd call for the lolikon: https://img.heyuri.net/b/koko.php?res=12968210% are pedo "related" threads (20% of which is by faganon)from a sample of 50 threads, I can say 2% of all threads on Off-Topic are for our lolikon users.
>first off. IMO its risky to have that board even, because it ALWAYS attracts bad ppl + bad attention eventuallyit genuinely doesn't lol, this is absolutely an extremely recent phenomenon, no one browsing imageboards regularly would have given a shit before like 2018 or so, and there seems to have been a major uptick in anti-lolicon sentiment across the internet since 2021>>68057>I also think there are hardly any "pedo-related" threads on Heyuri anyways, at least not enough to be called "bajillions".honestly, I'd say it's more every few weeks, we get a rash of threads regarding being attracted to IRL young girls, and then general silence on the topic between then
>Out of 50 newest threads on Off-TopicThat's not even 1 week's worth of threads - and that's with Off-Topic being noticeably slower than usual for the past 2 or 3 weeks. On a monthly basis, there are a ton of pedo and loli threads (and non-pedo threads that turn into pedo threads) that pass through Off-Topic - especially compared to 2+ years ago when they only occurred once in a blue moon>we get a rash of threads regarding being attracted to IRL young girlsThat's basically whenever faganon shows up - his threads are very samey >no one browsing imageboards regularly would have given a shit before like 2018 or soNot entirely true - there's been anti-loli sentiments and clampdowns at various points since imageboards have existed, including (in fact, especially) on 4chanHowever, it's true that the internet in general has dropped the "defend your right to say it fap to it" and "they're just drawings LOL" mindsets, and become even more rabidly anti-2D loli since the mid-2010s, but that coincides with 1. the big increase in popularity of anime in the West (thus more people being exposed to the idea of loli), and 2. the big increase in outrage/"social justice" movements on the internet3D loli and openly pro-pedophilia discussions were never widely-accepted anywhere on the English-speaking net, and the sites housing that kind of material were always shortlived
I think if mods just let the lolicons and the anti-lolicons fight between themselves things would solve themselves naturally
>2. the big increase in outrage/"social justice" movements on the internetI believe this sudden increase has largely been caused by the dead, beaten horse that is commentary content on platforms like YouTube. Over time, the amount of people committing actual serious offences worthwhile enough to make an "x EXPOSED" video on has run low enough that the bar has been lowered closer and closer to the ground, just so people can be constantly morally outraged, which keeps big bucks from the easy to make yet popular videos rolling in. The fact that such content is largely consumed by younger people probably amplifies it, since its easier to convince them that "2D art == literal CSAM" and other similar beliefs. ^^;
well... its just who we are.
>3D loli and openly pro-pedophilia discussions were never widely-accepted anywhere on the English-speaking net, and the sites housing that kind of material were always shortlivedbut at least 25% of the posts in any thread about loli anime/manga on 4chan are pedo discussion and from the few times I've visited /tv/ it's the same thing with lolis in live action TV/movies.
>On a monthly basis, there are a ton of pedo and loli threadsI'm still not convinced... You should give time periods and examples as ur proof, teh percentage of lolicon threads was very small the last time you brought the topic up tooI do agree there is an increase compared to few years ago, but I don't think it's as big of a problem as you claim, nor the source of any other problem. At least, if you observed a lack of LOLs, I don't think telling people "no more lolicon plz" will make things any more fun, or banning half our users will be a solution to anything. I believe in an internet where all humans can share their fetish images in peace and create other kinds of content at the same time >there seems to have been a major uptick in anti-lolicon sentiment across the internet since 2021It's rly pure lunacy, like many things else on the internet... Shouldn't even be a topic of discussion on a thread about Heyuri. Any of those topics you would see on 旧Twitter is unwelcome to bring. I won't make a list (nor am really knowledgeable about it all), but at least this already seems to be the consensus on Heyuri.>3D loli and openly pro-pedophilia discussions were never widely-accepted anywhere on the English-speaking net, and the sites housing that kind of material were always shortlivedEh... for everything about legals to keep the site running, refer to >>67926 - it's another topicFor the moral side, we can't expect everyone to accept a clear line. I want to avoid any moral discussions about pedophilia (or about anything on that matter), but majority of English-speaking net are sure to get in moral panics if a they see pedophiles openly fantasizing for the first time in their lives. I said this before, but if it gets to a "kys pedo" & "stfu moralfag", obviously it's rule breaking for other reasons.I will still believe for a Japanese-influenced BBS like Heyuri, the best fitting attitude is not giving any fucks about all this lame discussion Faganon is an exception among our lolikon users, though. He is the "annoying pedo who is too proud of breaking teh norms" type you don't see in Japan.
the lolis will never stop causing drama it's the source of free energy for humanity!
this is barely a discussion, longstops shall never stop on Site Discussion@Heyuri
>>68058the old 8chan moderator null has said a million times hes against loli because thats exactly how it panned out when they tried to be 100% free-speech. (4chan /l/ board too). ppl always push too far with it.there's different attitudes to this topic eg.actual children/teens on TT, they flip out at u for liking mimukauwa nice try or MT anime because its pedoanime oldies wont care because it is/was pretty normal in anime culture(explicit porn dumps arent the same as loli pantsu reaction img imo)>>68059it's not just moral, soc justice, newf*gs issue it's illegal in a lot of the 1st world now.. ppl go to jail for owning/caching the same imgs that get posted maybe im alone here in that ^ also the external reputation of heyuri going from silly oldf*g larping site to a gross pedophile site is sad
>the old 8chan moderator null has said a million times hes against loliHe's also said many times that he hates anime and japanese culture in general. Here's a pretty funny clip from his podcast 3 days ago where he reads a summary of Made in Abyss S1 to his normalfag audience
>>68067>ppl go to jail for owning/caching the same imgs that get postedNot for loli, at least in the USA. In every case that a guys has been charged for possessing lolicon, it's been tacked on to CP charges. No judge can prosecute you for lolicon because it's protected under the 1st amendment.The vast majority of this site is pro-lolicon or just doesn't care. Stop trying to make this an issue. If you don't like it, GTFO.
>riskyJust say that you personally don't like it and want it gone.
-Not Heyuri specific-I seriously don't understand why loli being illegal is an issue for u guysDoes the police knock your door because they have teams tracking everyone's internet traffic, and they check all websites they visit to see if there is anything illegal according to their laws? Just use VPNs if that's the case.People in my country get raided during nighttime to get all their electronics confiscated by the police if they share anti-government stuff on a place they are able to identify them. Luckily Heyuri allows anonymous posting and won't share your IPs with random European government agencies. So as long as you don't turn yourselves in to the nearest police stations for possessing illegal patterns of 0s and 1s on your drives, there is no way anything on the internet (that's allow in the US) will be a trouble for you (unless they monitor each connection you make on from the ISP, and again, use a VPN in that case). Your president/king/dictator likely doesn't have a spy cam on your ceiling watching your every action
>>68059Wasn't faganon banned? Or am I having dejavu?
>>68082Nope still here just another anonymous poster now.Many of the post and threads on /b/ that aren't even pedo related are actually mine yet anons are still circle jerking about how much they hate me which i find hilarious. The reality is i haven't really complained about Heyuri since Kuz was still in charge things have been pretty good since he left IMO.Also just to clarify while i do make pedo post and threads i was never the guy spamming the pro map shit that wasn't me but feel free to think it was and keep portraying me as the boogeyman of Heyuri.