Off-Topic@Heyuri

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if I lived in a country where that was legal I'd be motivated to stop being a NEET so I could afford to buy things for my Aisha

he's basically the ugly old bastard from my h doujins ┐(ﾟ～ﾟ)┌

Heyuri-tan's great grandpa

if its considered normal then its okay with me

Had compassion on the poor, disabled and orphans. The Qur'an is full of admonishments directed towards wealthy misers.
Taught that God's mercy or wrath are independent of one's race or social status.
Many of the Qur'an's verses are genuinely beautiful and poetic.
The verses about God leaving us signs of his existence in nature inspired many scientific discoveries. This was bolstered by the importance of reading scripture, which led to increased literacy.

Spread his religion through conquest.
Heavily intertwined religion and politics, even more so than other religions of his time, with shariah governing nearly every aspect of human life.
Islamic morality is legalistic. Muslims are taught to obey religious authority over their own consciences. This is why you'll still find Muslim evangelists defending child marriage, the subjugation of women, corporal punishment and brutal methods capital punishment, etc.

While Islam had some positive outcomes for humanity, they were largely temporal and are now outweighed by the problems it is currently causing.

A very smart man, he got lolis to worship his every word because they thought he was the messenger of God.

>>130111

Same here.

>Muslims are taught to obey religious authority over their own consciences.
crazy people's consciences tell them to do all sorts of evil things.
>This is why you'll still find Muslim evangelists defending child marriage, the subjugation of women, corporal punishment and brutal methods capital punishment, etc.
I'm not a muslim and I think all those things are good, if the government administering the punishment is good. For example if a rapist is publicly tortured to death it will deter many other would-be rapists, so the suffering the rapist endures is far outweighed by the suffering that all those would-be rape victims and their families didn't endure. As for child marriage and the subjugation of women, if you look at any statistics about divorce, suicide rates, drug addiction, depression and other mental illness, single mother households etc. in your country compared to muslim countries you should really rethink some things.

>>130155
>As for child marriage and the subjugation of women, if you look at any statistics about divorce, suicide rates, drug addiction, depression and other mental illness, single mother households etc. in your country compared to muslim countries you should really rethink some things.
I absolutely can't be arsed to go through this whole post point by point, but killing your problems is arguably sweeping them under the rug, and the first two things have fuck and all to do with anything but the divorce rate lol.

he should write in a more comprehensible manner(reading the quaran was a chore), should have learnt a bit more (to at least try to make convincing claims)
(for ex he state somewhere Maria is part of the trinity)

I have no problem with hims being a coomer but why does he assume I would attack any woman in front of me ?

outside of his trashy religion and the fact he is arab,
he is kinda cool.

(LOL B&)

>>130155
>if you look at any statistics about divorce, suicide rates, drug addiction, depression and other mental illness, single mother households etc. in your country compared to muslim countries
You first need to believe their data is accurate, then ignore the fact that stuff like depression of the population is heavily underreported due to the lack of public awareness and mental health institutes in 3rd world

People took lolis back then because it guaranteed NO AIDS and such. It was pretty rational.
Also, with no 'beauty industry' and lots of manual work and so on, women aged even faster and in worse manner than today.
So it's just about choosing goods that are fresh, unused and healthy.
Considering the struggles of everyday life they faced, lolis were THE LEAST problem people had at those times.
The entire 'morality of a girl & man age gap couple' is a 'luxury belief' type of an 'issue'.

>the first two things have fuck and all to do with anything but the divorce rate
Plenty of men are depressed because they can't have a child bride or find a wife that isn't a gross feminist slut which leads to suicide, drug addiction, all sorts of crime etc. and makes everyone in society miserable including the women who end up living with no husband and all the kids who grow up with no father.
>>130171
Western media would have you believe that in patriarchal arab societies all women are just getting mercilessly beaten everyday by their husbands and they're all depressed, and that child marriage means little girls are getting brutally raped in every hole all day but those are projections of westerners' own sadistic perversions. Western society suppresses pubescent tween/early teen natural and healthy sexual desires for years while exposing them to tons of hypersexual pornographic and weird fetishistic media, which drives those teens insane with all kinds of rapey hypersexual desires and sometimes extreme fetishes like faggotry, furry/zoophilia, scat etc. making them dysfunctional, mentally and physically ill, unable to find a partner who shares their unique set of weird fetishes, I could go on for hours. Then in the late teens they are given the go ahead to have as much sex as they want with as many partners as they want, while trying to find "the one" to finally settle down and marry in their 20s or 30s is an afterthought after collecting 10 STDs and a prolapse or two, then having a loveless dysfunctional marriage that fails more often than not (not always with divorce, they're often just miserable together for life). The ways muslims do things may not be perfect but they are 100x better than the hell on earth that is modern western society.

People give Muhamad shit but many biblical patriarchs and prophets were no better, Abraham bought a young egyptian slave Hagar so she could bore him a child (fun fact, some muslim traditions say that Hagar was a granddaughter of an early arabic prophet Salih) and later mistreated her, Judah impregnated his daughter in law Tamar and the wise king Salomon was fucking and raping girls left and right, including a foreign queen on a diplomatic mission

>>130207
Don't get me wrong, I'm not being critical of the bible or God. There are some people who take these stories out of context to try to prove that God is super evil, but honestly gods of other pantheons have done even worse shit, so...

God damn it, how do I make a scrolling text box for a long post? Sorry if anyone is seeing me delete and redraft that over and over.

>>130234
[scr​oll][/scr​oll] (don't try to copy and paste this, type it yourself)

teh scroll tag was created for stuff like torrent link dumps that would otherwise be too hard to scroll. I think it looks ugly on normal "lengthy" posts

He's a man-slut because he didn't rape Japanese girls.

>>130236
Thank you anon, I wish it was in the BBCode reference. An option to preview before posting would also be nice...

>>130207
But the characters in the Bible are not presented as perfect people. Many characters, prophets included, are depicted as having serious flaws, with attention being drawn to these flaws. They are presented as complex characters so you can relate to them and reflect upon their stories. In Christianity Jesus alone is considered perfect, while Islam considers Mohammed's life ideal and worthy of imitation. The narratives of the biblical prophets in the Koran often lack the nuance of the original narratives as well.

If you want to criticize the morality of the Bible, there are better angles. In 1 Samuel 15 for example, God orders Saul to totally obliterate the Amalekites, to kill all of them, including women and children, and destroy all of their property and livestock. This isn't presented as a bad thing or even as a regrettable but necessary evil. In fact God takes away Saul's kingship over Israel because he didn't follow through on this command fully.

>Judah and Tamar
Not the best example since Tamar dressed up as a prostitute and tricked him. You can call Judah a whoremonger, but he didn't willingly have wincest with his daughter.

>Solomon
When did he rape women? He had, as I recall, 700 wives and 300 concubines. The Queen of Sheba certainly is not presented as a rape victim, as Song of Solomon is an erotic poem about their love for each other. Solomon sins when he is seduced by his wives into worshiping other gods and building idols to them.

Here are some other examples of Bible characters being fuckups:

Noah and Ham
After the flood, Noah plants the first vineyard, and (understandably, after seeing everyone killed in a flood) gets shitfaced to the point where he passes out naked, where Ham finds him. Ham tells his brothers and they walk backwards with a sheet to cover his shame. Noah wakes and realizes what happened, somehow knowing who found him, curses Ham.

This story is very confusing until you realize that the phrasing used - that Ham "uncovered his father's nakedness" - is a euphemism for sex found elsewhere in the Bible (Leviticus 18). In other words, Ham raped his own dad while he was passed out. huh

David
When looking out from his palace he got a boner for a smokin' hot babe, so he had his servants bring her back and he slept with her. Afterwards he found out that she was married, and that her husband was a soldier. David devised a scheme to get rid of her husband; before a battle he ordered that the husband be placed on the front lines where he would be killed, which he was. So David becomes an adulterer and murderer, which he repents for.

Moses and Aaron
When the Israelites were out of water, God instructed Moses and Aaron to speak to a rock to make water miraculously pour from it. Instead of following God's instructions, Moses strikes the rock with his staff. It works and they get their water, but because they disobeyed God Moses and Aaron are told that they will not enter the promised land.

Aaron's sons
Aaron's sons, who are priests, offer "strange fire before the Lord" and are consequently immolated by God.

Jephthah
Jephthah a vow to God that if he won a battle, he'd give the first thing that came out of his house as a burnt offering to God. He wins the battle, only to come return and see his daughter exit the house. He laments that now that he made a vow, he cannot break it. He sacrifices his daughter.

Jeremiah
While not exactly presented as a sin, Jeremiah hates being a prophet and is practically suicidal.
>O Lord, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived; thou art stronger than I, and hast prevailed: I am in derision daily, every one mocketh me.
>Cursed be the day wherein I was born: let not the day wherein my mother bare me be blessed.

Peter
Famously denies Jesus three times.

Paul
As a Pharisee, Paul was a zealot who persecuted the early church, for this reason he called himself "the least of the apostles". As a Christian, Paul confessed that he continually struggled with sin.
>For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
>For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing.
Many also speculate that the "thorn in his flesh" from the devil was lust or another sin.

>Ham raped his own dad while he was passed out.
wow the bible is gay, no wonder christians and jews are all so gay while muslims don't have that problem.

>>130241
>muslims don't have that problem.

Definitely not.

>>130149
Religious extremism is just a product of the conditions and instability that these different countries are facing. Not anything inherent to Islam.

it was normal at that time i guess idk

>>130428
it's still normal in good countries

>>130414
Saudi Arabia has a GPD per capita on par with Canada, the UK, Finland, South Korea, Italy etc.

>that Ham "uncovered his father's nakedness"
>Ham raped his own dad while he was passed out.

He was cursed Because he saw the nakedness (to my Knowledge)

And if he had "raped his dad" look at Genesis 19
(Image is Painting of what happened in Genesis 19 after the people in the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah tried to rape 2 males angels, which is why the traditonal name for anal is Sodomising)