he's right, he keeps breaking rule 8 (referencing hawk tuah and stuff). Mods, stop protecting users that you have a boner for

everyone is treated equally before Rule 8, temp b& over that (leaving the post up for posterity)

however going after individual users is lame too, you have the option to silently filter her name from settings
her crazy behavior isn't otherwise something unwelcome on Heyuri

>>69198
>her
You can't be that stupid

>>69199
female until proven otherwise

>No. 69199
maybe you should lurk Heyuri more often instead of tiktok or wherever you even learned that R8 material from too

@69201
lol mad?

>her
now it all makes sense... ya horny bastards!

>>69201
material?

i second this

>>69206
Material.

its not fair unless everyone gets teh raep!!

>>69196
It kinda feels like she's set in stone now in the community despite the obvious rule 8 breaks every once in a while.

Also I think this is the second thread i've seen that asks for her removal.

I agree with the rape, but not a permanent ban, since I'm not sure it's being purposefully.
Maybe the temporary bans should make the reasoning more clear, so it doesn't happen again. Not like I know if they are already clear not, though.

>>69201
>maybe you should lurk Heyuri more often instead of tiktok or wherever you even learned that R8 material from too
By that logic, wouldn't it be bad to complain about expressions like based or cope and seed too? Since you'd only know them from using R8 websites?

>>69211
exactly! But we know why they are like this. Some bored nerdy teen guy can pretend to be a girl and get preferential treatment from the mods. They even ban you for asking for proper rule enforcement while circlejerking in their chatroom about how its just 1 guy samefagging over their so called "resident schoolgirls"

>>69212
my theory is that there's no real ban implementation here @ heyuri.net. they only work as fake bans, that's y they overdo that joke so much!

Heyuri isn't a site where we ban users for posting things they weren't aware were ban-worthy (if it's clear they had no bad intentions, they'll get a warning or a deleted post at most) or posting things that are only considered ban-worthy by some "imageboard veteran" n00b carrying expectations they developed on a different website

It's been stated a million times - and perhaps kaguya should update the rules page to clarify this once and for all - but Rule 8 is not a "ban all new things" nor a "ban all n00bz" rule. Rule 8 is there to keep out the kinds of crappy imageboard users who post pepe/wojak images between every breath, and trolls who are intentionally making shitty/hostile posts to piss off regular users or lower their enjoyment of the site. It's there to make Heyuri a more fun and interesting place to be than other sites of this kind - not a more snobbish or antagonistic one

Regular contributors to the site - especially those who have posted OC - do in fact receive preferential treatment over random anonymous users who complain and/or troll. The reality is that Heyuri's small-but-loud demographic of self-appointed gatekeepers are more frequently guilty of breaking the actual Rule 8 than the users they complain about

im tired of accidentally using a word and getting reprimanded. ヽ(`Д´ )ノ i dont mean to do it!!! I am trying my best, but getting scolded makes me not want to post!
a word filter could catch accidents.

sagesagesagesage

>>69215
>Rule 8 is there to keep out the kinds of crappy imageboard users who post pepe/wojak images between every breath, and trolls who are intentionally making shitty/hostile posts to piss off regular users or lower their enjoyment of the site.
I don't think that's true though. Let's say someone writes a good post, but in that post they describe something as "based". While the post would likely not be banned, using that word in such a situation would still be discourage and I doubt what would be going through the mods' minds is "since this user does not use this word in a low effort and annoying way, I do not think that the user switching to some other positive adjective would be preferable in any way" (if I'm wrong on this, then I'm wrong, since the mods are the ones who decide what the rules are for, but from what I've seen I feel like the mods would still have a preference for the use of a different adjective to convey the same thing). Similarly, if a user made a picture where characters would be edited into people of the photo, and one of the people was given a wojak face, even if the wojak wasn't supposed to be some annoying comment on how the person in the picture was "soying out" or something, such a picture would still be looked down upon.
These examples would imply that there is something else about these words, independent of their function (probably history, etymology and aesthetics), that makes them worthy of contempt.

I mostly agree, Rule 8 doesn't so strictly ban all new content (although I would say a tiktok meme from 2020s is hardly ever exempt...). And maybe opposing to my earlier post, obvious innocent newcomers may get more lenient moderation to keep them interested in site.

However, for the longest time, rule 8 was enforced in a stricter way where even new and innocent users would taste longer bans than I handed out to Sweet Emo-san (already expired nao) for referencing to a new meme/accidentally using a banned word, etc. Depending on severity (eg. multiple users discovering Heyuri form tiktok and bringing their god-awful memes), I still wouldn't hesitate being more harsh - of course this is far from the situation now.

I can also see why many users are annoyed getting called "tumblrlicious pals (HEHEH)" by a user they have been tolerating the n00bness of for multiple months now, with no sign to adapt on their end. I don't think it's a small demographic in this case either (as opposed to most others), most people will say WTF and silently leave Heyuri. There must be a balance between two extremes of those gatekeepers and unchecked influx of actual tiktok culture

>Let's say someone writes a good post, but in that post they describe something as "based". While the post would likely not be banned, using that word in such a situation would still be discourage and I doubt what would be going through the mods' minds is "since this user does not use this word in a low effort and annoying way, I do not think that the user switching to some other positive adjective would be preferable in any way"
Posts like that always get a warning unless they're one of the known regular rule breakers - either publicly as a reply or privately via the warning function

From there, the outcome is largely determined by their reaction. An "oops my bad, won't do that again" means we don't have to do anything else since the situation is already resolved; a "lmao this site is rulecucked" on the other hand will result in an actual ban since it's obvious they have no intention of following the rules, and then the usual game of ban-evasion whack-a-mole will commence

>Similarly, if a user made a picture where characters would be edited into people of the photo, and one of the people was given a wojak face, even if the wojak wasn't supposed to be some annoying comment on how the person in the picture was "soying out" or something, such a picture would still be looked down upon.
If it was the "classic" Wojak (as it was used before the whole thing became extremely stale and retarded) in an otherwise rule-abiding post, I'd just baleet the image and warn the user... but in all honesty, I can't think of a single time I've seen one of those get posted to Heyuri. It's always the shitty 2017+ ones that are designed to annoy people as much as possible, and leaves no doubt about the user's intentions

>unchecked influx of actual tiktok culture
If you're referring to the "hawk tuah" thing that Sweet Emo seems to have a penchant for (regardless of how irrelevant it is to the topic), it's not "tiktok culture" - it was a viral internet phenomenon/meme that hit the mainstream and got remixed to death like all the others in internet history. Since Tiktok is one of the most popular video-hosting sites in the world right now, naturally it was heavily featured there - but it was also all over every other website (well, except this one) and featured on mainstream news. Hell, even Jim "old, out-of-touch man who hates everything new since 1985" Cornette discussed it on his podcast - that's how I first heard about it

That doesn't mean we should have it all over Heyuri (if for no other reason than because it's old and stale), but it's incorrect to file it under "tiktok culture". Us being referred to as "tumblrlicious pals" and treating 2015 as a year to be celebrated was far more egregious

>>69219
My comment was less about about whether the examples I gave would get banned or not (although knowing that is necessary for its purpose), but rather the examples were a premise to my argument that it's untrue to say that R8 words are seen with contempt just because they are often used in an annoying way, or anything else related to their function, but rather that it's also because of something related to the word itself.

>If you're referring to the "hawk tuah" thing
Yes, I don't know about Jim-san but if u think it's mislabeling to put it as tiktok culture then it probably is in this case

Howevar my point stands, it's not a baseless fear that influx of such "foreign" cultures could influx erode our culture if we don't get involved for any innocently rule breaking user beyond warning/deleting posts in possible future cases.
See this tiktok vid that's watched probably by multi-thousands - it doesn't make me think we are in any danger for possible newcomers from there (Heyuri always promoted advertising anywhere and everywhere, and letting the moderation handle the user straining part), it's just a simple reminder that the new users could need some help for adjusting to Heyuri and we may realistically need to possibly filter some of them. If ~20 people come from one ad, it's fine to filter ~2 and have ~18 new users left. It feels like you changed some of your opinions since then - and that's fine - but I liekd your quote in 2022: >>61614
That's the reality of every "anything goes" site ever - they become uninhabitable dumping grounds for all the garbage that nobody else wants (whether it's extreme content or kids being their retarded, LOL-killing selves), and all things good and awesome are driven out

Internet communities are like flower gardens - you gotta remove the weeds to allow the desirable plants to grow, or else you'll end up with nothing but weeds

We are closer to the years when more tumblrlicious pals (HEHEH), whose very existence in 2015 is questionable may find their way to Heyuri, than we are to 2020

final verdict? Kill sweet emo, divide up his corpse, place his body parts around the boards to ward off filth like him.

Oh, you think I'm going too far? You know we used to have a guro board right?

here is the customary autosage, of the only active thread on this board. You start to wonder what the point of this board is...

>>69223
i autosage'd it because it just was a kuso thread going after a single user at the time of autosaging (around the 12th reply or so) and already got an answer

>You start to wonder what the point of this board is...
it can still be replied to, it just doesn't bump. som1 else can take it off if they wanted to

Un-autosage'd

>Howevar my point stands, it's not a baseless fear that influx of such "foreign" cultures could influx erode our culture if we don't get involved for any innocently rule breaking user beyond warning/deleting posts in possible future cases.
I disagree that moderation needs to go beyond warning/deletion when a rule breakage is clearly accidental or unintentional. What's the point in banning a user for such a thing besides temporarily lowering Heyuri's activity level, or permanently if they decide to leave because of it?

Obviously it's a different matter if it's an intentional/egregious rule breakage or the user keeps breaking the same rule after the warning/deletion

Regarding "foreign" cultures: the "foreign" culture here is the one demanding that Heyuri users who don't fit some kind of 4chan-derived mold get B& from Heyuri, or harassing them until said users leave of their own volition. That's a far bigger threat to Heyuri's culture than one autistic girl with a cartoon frog fetish, who's mere existence provides LOLs and can be easily reined in at any time when it goes too far

The "users I don't like = unwanted foreigners" mindset is far more pervasive and detrimental to us in the long term, and it's nearly impossible to get rid of once it gains momentum. At that point, Heyuri would be doomed to end up as a handful of grouchy "True Scotsmen" repeatedly telling each other to GTFO for not meeting all 9001 aspects of their personal criteria. I've seen it happen

>but I liekd your quote in 2022
In that quote I was obviously talking about the kinds of garbage that came with the laissez-faire moderation Vidlii had at the time - extremism/radicalization/illegal material, ultra low-quality "meme videos", users being the type of people who reply to everything with "cringe" or "kys", etc. - things that destroy fun on the internet

I've used the "weeds in the flower garden" analogy in relation to Heyuri since 2020, and at no point was it directed towards users who are a bit different but are still making contributions, are trying to stick to the rules, and aren't trying to cause trouble. At most, I've complained in the past about certain underage users in 2022 using the Oekaki board as their personal dumping ground for no-effort scribbles - and that was more of a flooding/"board domination" issue than anything else

...the fact I also thought their material was mostly unfunny and lame was just a matter of personal taste and opinion, but I didn't think they should leave the site because of it - instead I appreciated their enthusiasm and tried to teach them how to make better material

You can make a similar "personal dumping ground" argument against Sweet Emo during her manic frog-posting episodes, but it hasn't happened as much recently and has never been on the same level as the scribbles thing

Anonymous ## Mod == a true tumblrlicious pal

>Anonymous ## Mod == a true tumblrlicious pal
No other staff-san deleted that post either, so you can't just blame me

i think kaguya is right to preserve a standard of posting, 100% of the time when i say an R8 word, its by accident, and i feel bad about it. sometimes i dont even notice until its too late. I'm too retarded to not make mistakes like that every once in a while.
For the record, i dont use tiktok.

middle eastern dictatorships dream of a populace that loves rule following as much as heyuri users do

>I disagree that moderation needs to go beyond warning/deletion when a rule breakage is clearly accidental or unintentional
I generally agree - warnings and deletions should be the default response for minor & unintentional rule b0rkages. But we should also recognize that even well-meaning users can cause long-term friction if patterns repeat or begin to affect the overall feeling of the community. Think of it like this - imagine you have a pet cat that keeps p00ping outside the litter box. At first you would think it doesn't know any better and just quietly clean up the mess, but over time you'd get tired of it, especially when the smell starts driving your guests away. Eventually you would be forced to take harsher measures like deny its food, and if nothing else works, you would give up and throw it out teh window with a tear on your eye
Sweet Emo isn't quite at that level (and probably nevar will be - I'm not just talking about her posts specifically), but we shouldn't be surprised that regular users are starting to feel overwhelmed or alienated by what they perceive to be AIDS. Absence of one unwanted user can end up making the room more crowded, regardless of how unfair that might seem or how it clashes with your personal view of Heyuri's culture. I'm personally prioritizing quality moar than quantity and don't want to feed the gatekeeping mob either, I'm just saying there should be a time to know when a limit must be drawn (again, I'm not talking about Sweet Emo, hell, such a person may never visit Heyuri but my point would stand)

>one autistic girl with a cartoon frog fetish, who's mere existence provides LOLs and can be easily reined in at any time when it goes too far
I hope I'm wrong - that's fair in theory, but it doesn't seem like all users actually find her posts LOL-worthy in reality
>In that quote I was obviously talking about the kinds of garbage that came with the laissez-faire moderation Vidlii had at the time
It was directly after kuz's post about Roblox kids, so I thought "kids being their retarded, LOL-killing selves" was referring to them. The distinction between Sweet Emo posting her Keroro Gunsou OCs and Roblox kids posting their OC avatars is pretty slim for many users (though personally I like keroro more for being Japanese-made). I don't mean this in a bad way - I think users would tolerate a roblox kid to see if he is willing to adapt. Banning gore and "extreme" stuff is easy, but having a standard (or a community adhering to a standard) is much harder. I'm mostly unsure how far the standards are meant to flex before the tone of this place changes (again, sweet emo is one user who doesn't nearly post enough for this to happen so I'm not talking in her basis)

>but I didn't think they should leave the site because of it - instead I appreciated their enthusiasm and tried to teach them how to make better material
Right, I was also the #1 pesterer encourager of Usagi-chan to create moar OCs like SWFs at the time (which she did and earned the community's respect!), so I can understand
It's quite obvious that helping users improve is better than driving them out. We just need a shared sense of baseline expectations, we could be risking the site becoming chaotic why am I still typing when this is the third time I'm mentioning it's unliekly that day would come...

>the "foreign" culture here is the one demanding that Heyuri users who don't fit some kind of 4chan-derived mold get B& from Heyuri
I agree that users calling for bans on things they personally dislike is a problem - but that behavior's been around since teh beginning. Even you used to do it (;＾Д^)
Even the thread you posted that was asking to ban OP quotelinking with noone seeming to oppose... Which once was a bannable offense. Of course, the times have changed and we aren't that strict anymore, but one of Heyuri's defining characteristics was abundance of (real) bans u know

>No other staff-san deleted that post either, so you can't just blame me
It's not to be deleted, I just thought it's funny how the phrase "hapyp 2015 my tumblrlicious pals (HEHEH)" perfectly captured that kind of culture

To be clear, I still want to let her post harmless frogs in the degree of not being a board dominance, and will defend freedom of any fetish including toads. However I do think we need to be realistic about how even harmless-seeming posts could cumulatively shift Heyuri's culture that aren't intentional nor immediately noticeable. If we're not mindful, we could end up with a Heyuri that feels less like the one we came to enjoy in 2020 and more like something entirely different, just because no one was paying attention when things jumped the rails.

Ah... I didn't mean to write up another longpost. I wonder how much more of our lives that we'll spend writing posts on Site Discussion@Heyuri

heyuris staff are constantly arguing with eachother and correcting eachother on /q/, saging and unsaging threads, etc

Its funny. at least its somewhat transparent

so ur saying we need to make more /l/ threads to repel the tiktok/normals! Got it!

>>69232
She doesn't seem to care about lolis, or to be actively hostile to any of Heyuri's culture, she just seems to not know anything about anything. Makes me wonder how she even found this place.

>>69233
it's our duty to educate her and help her unlock better fetishes by showing her lots of stuff like this

honestly, I'm kinda surprised at how gay people are acting to someone who has been entirely non-hostile to everything heyuri represents and whose only real faults involve speaking with the language of the greater internet at large on occasion (which probably should have had several warnings publicly given, but I ain't a mod here)

because ultimately, someone who regularly posts OC and visibly spends their time enjoying things is sure as fuck not someone I'd want to chase away from this site ┐(ﾟ～ﾟ)┌

>>69235
i think the same people who complain about sweet emo and rabbitfield might be the same people who complain about /j/ （ ´ _ `）

>>69235
>>69236
Rabbitfield is alright, nobody criticizes her

It's Sweet Emo who's the problem, and how her annoying and clearly rule 8 b0rking posts aren't deleted because of Kaguya's and the mods' favoritism

>>69237
I don't care about sweet emo, it's the continued pattern of defending who they naively think are real women.

It makes me wince. watching them do summersaults while writing page after page of defense for some bored guy with Aspergers pretending to be a teen girl. Same goes for /j/, the majority if not all of the so called girls here are fake - irl girls and lolicons do not mix and you are truly delusional if you think so. Besides, this totally goes against the purpose of rule 0. All you've done is make it so they don't ""officially"" say they are underage while everyone knows they are.

It comes off as them bucking the entire userbase and sites rules because they must white knight for some underage "girls"

you are entitled to have opinions, but let me clarify
>clearly rule 8 b0rking posts aren't deleted
I've deleted many of her posts without you noticing. Earlier I had to hand out a shorter ban again for repeat offending rule 8 (absolute cinema). I also b& u again for backseat moderating in that thread

>if not all of the so called girls here are fake
It doesn't matter, it never does. It could be 100% made of newborn male chimpanzees and it wouldn't matter. What people are IRL is of very little importance on the internet. If there is any living being that wants to discuss girly topics on the internet with other living beings, they can use Girl Talk@Heyuri to achieve it. They don't even need to claim they are human females to use any part of Heyuri.
>All you've done is make it so they don't ""officially"" say they are underage
That's the same way on all internet. It's also not unseen that girls still have backpack pins to university. When there are users claiming to be underaged, they do get banned, also not mattering if it's a "joke" or I don't personally feel like they are underaged.

>>69240
Pretty sure sweet emo is actually female. She posted some picture on her tumblr and she looks like a girl. She also looks obese though.

>>69242
>obese
so what prompted her to call herself sweet

>>69275
sugary sweet diabetes blood...

>We ought to ban (and rape) sweet emo
We should do that, but without the b& part

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