> Kaguya, is the ultimate "quantity over quality
i meant the opposite

also the italics part is from a lolico era newspost. lolico made other statements such as saying he wanted new users to not be "traditional imageboard stock" and that heyuri would raise a new generation of imageboard users who are uniquely indoctrinated to heyuris views

more importantly, lolico had a precious idea which todays lousy admins cant recognize: He rejected the doomsayers who viewed imageboards as a dying format that would never catch on with the young generation. He disregarded endless complaining about "n00bs like me" and sought to build from the ground up, a new generation of young imageboard users who would match and surpass the percieved golden era of imageboards back in the 2000s. Such a philosophy still exists today, but kaguyas policy is to wait for users to wander in, rather than the aggresively expansionist policies of lolico and kuz who actively shoved heyuri down everyones throats. Not afraid of backlash! This bold thinking is why this site even exists and is growing in an age where lesser sites are dying out.

Lolico seriously had the idea that Heyuri would grow to rival reddit and facebook. Such radical and unabashed thinking is commendable... it seems, that the new generation of leadership is not accepting of the masses, but scaring them away, by causing heyuri to retreat to an ever shrinking, and perverted, niche. The proliferation of pedophilia probably has seriously hindered heyuris growth and that also must be addressed.

All of this is a very serious stream of conscience.. I request a reply from kaguya himself and the opinions of the masses! (Though since I am a very old user of this website, my opinion is probably more important than yours)

tl;dr: kaguya is not focused on expanding the sites reach and is neglecting the ideas of the founding fathers, which will eventually cause the site to collapse in on itself. also, the pedo shit is a huge problem that the site has already nearly been lost over once, and kaguyas regrettable statements have only worsened...

All teh "influxes" Heyuri evar saw besides the initial 9chan influx and the word-of-mouth influx that followed were post-kuz - the kuz/kolyma era gave us a pretty consistent decline in userbase & activity, and then we bottomed out for a whole year until kaguya took the reins ^^;

The "4chan 2004" target was actually paraphrasing one of my own posts made months earlier on /q/ (or /meta/) after I made sum PPD calculations

>The proliferation of pedophilia probably has seriously hindered heyuris growth and that also must be addressed
It's in teh big list of topics for the upcoming(???) townhall, and changes were already made to how we moderate 3D loli stuffz post-EPIKFAIL (and I'd already highly recommended doing as much way before EPIKFAIL)

Kaguya, a personal message: Do not be afraid of failure! Your predecessor, who was one of the greatest men of all time, basically "The Jesus" of imageboards (many people have posthumously called him that! - I believe the coin was termed by a certain "Anonwaha") started with nothing, and yet, today, the only imageboards on the internet that have experienced persistent and positive upward growth the past 2 years are both former members of his network - Heyuri, and the bald man cartoon website. Every other imageboard is slowly dying including 4chan. Clearly the ideas of k-jesus were successful beyond measure, so your change of pace is quite stunning really!

Whoever is in control of Heyuris CGI section ought to be given an award for his introduction of foreign software and ideas to the site. Radical ideas dont actually have to be new, they can just be foreign to the west as well!

>>68865
With all due respect Moderator, I do think you both underestimate the positive influences of kolyma and overstate the negative ones. The period of decline in 2021 was probably due to a combination of factors such as board wars, burnout, and a general boredom people expressed with Heyuri - the kolyma system was far from perfect, and its perfectly clear it had flaws which is why it ceased to exist. Kaguya taking the reigns did indeed improve many aspects, but the influx of users has always been because of kolyma-era projects, even to this day. The period of inactivity was because of a lack of effort, which kaguya rejuvinated. But since his ascension no new major efforts have been made to expand heyuris usership rapidly.

Why doesn't kaguya buy more sites and direct users to heyuri.. where are the mass advertising campaigns? Where is the DRAMA, that made things so interesting?

Don't tell me, that kaguya is willing to confine heyuri to the fate of all small imageboards, which is a community which continues to feed off itself until the lack of newcomers turns it into a corpse... it's like feeding an animal its own shit. Eventually there will be no nutrients left

>>68866
i'll just leave it at this, but i think its poignant that in an era where every single imageboard is trending towards death, that the only two outliers (minus 2 week long shitty altchans), are both former kolyma-websites, both of which have former kolyma personel as admins.. it cannot be a coincidence that both of them were the side projects of a bored teenager, and later exploded in activity (with the effect on the other website being truly immense) after the implementation of radical, revolutionary, and important ideas... its not a coicidence folks!

>but the influx of users has always been because of kolyma-era projects
- Vidlii influx was only tangentially related to kuz/kolyma since it was actually the result of kaguya pinning my April Fools Heyuri-tan dreaming OC to their front page (this was right after kuz stepped down)
- New Years 2023 influx was cuz a random fag spammed Heyuri ads on every website evar (and it was nearly squandered by kuz shenanigans following it)
- Spacehey influx had little to do with anyone on Heyuri - it was mainly the result of a certain 12yo 4chan fangirl finding us and telling her Spacehey friends about us
- Recent 4chan & 4/f/ influx happened cuz 4chan went offline for 2 weeks + they killed /f/

We haven't had any other sudden large influxes besides the lolico/kuz-era ones I mentioned before. If ur really stretching, there've been a few minor ones relating to various international imageboards (one of which is administered by kaguya)

>But since his ascension no new major efforts have been made to expand heyuris usership rapidly.
LIES - in fact kaguya has made many efforts in reaching out to various communities, particularly Japanese sites. And don't forget that kuz wasn't buying up sites to promote Heyuri - in fact Heyuri got increasingly neglected the more kuz focused on those other sites

While I don't dislike the idea of expansion -I did enjoy working for Kolyma's expansion back in teh day-, what u don't realize is that it takes a lot of $$$ to achieve
It was only kuz who could afford paying sums I have never physically seen to take over hueg websites (like vidlii, with almost half a million videos now) and keep paying to host them... Though in his case, it was physical servers in the company's datacenters. Obviously he has left the internet now (after making necessary arrangements for the survival of the 3 imageboards I administrate) and it's questionable if he is even alive, so I'm by myself now.

Any realistic venture we could have now is brand-new "subsidiaries" under Heyuri - Heyuri★CGI managed by one of our mods is an example (note that he pays for his server monthly out of his pocket too, obviously with nothing gain in exchange). I'm also not sure what Heyuri-brand (not necessarily BBS-related, or even hosted the same domain if we can afford a new one) topic we could delve into, but that's for another thread to think about
If you has one of those "new, young, and radical minds", feel free to reach out

>>Kaguya, is the ultimate "quantity over quality"
>i meant the opposite
It's not wrong I am quality over quantity, but there is no admin who has qualms about getting more activity
I too believe Heyuri could have the same quality while receiving thousands of posts a day (4chan 2004 was liek 2000 PPD), I've reiterated this multiple times on this board too. We have been fluctuating between 100~200 (considering only kokonotsuba boards) PPD, with highs and lows... or not, I can't make quick calculations as we don't have a discord server anymore (mod-san, are u still making graphs?).

>The proliferation of pedophilia probably has seriously hindered heyuris growth and that also must be addressed
Kodomoero is one thing that will seemingly be addressed during the upcoming townhall soon, but if someone leaves Heyuri just because they can't handle the existence of lolicon users - I'll pick the side of our dozens of long residing peaceful pedobears over some hypothetical users who would probably leave in a week after seeing some scat pr0nz anyways
But this is another topic now

>Why doesn't kaguya buy more sites and direct users to heyuri..
again, it takes too much moneez... It's a matter of convincing existing bored admins of sites to hand out data/domain in exchange of big USDs, and it's known that currently I have to beg around for paying even Heyuri's own domain.

>But since his ascension no new major efforts have been made to expand heyuris usership rapidly.
Now that's not true...
>where are the mass advertising campaigns?
We did maek some albums/song compilations and put them on youtube (we should do one again sumtime), reached out multiple Japanese link lists, Heyuri is also big enough that we notice new users every so often. I tried to spread the word of Flash@Heyuri among old 4/f/ users as much as I could, and so on.
relevant poll: https://cgi.heyuri.net/vote2/vote.cgi?allres=on&room=1743602428
I also linked Heyuri's Strange World with Japanese Ayashii World bulletin boards, or at least made the effort and the users there saw & came over even if briefly (and we now have some Japanese regulars on our instance).
That said, if you have any other ideas about advertising (that don't require paying...), plz don't hesitate to propose! I believe Heyuri should be advertised anywhere and everywhere, and our moderation should take care of removing the unfits.
It's also worth mentioning it's bad for Heyuri's image if it's found out that I excessively share Heyuri around (like someone did in 2023) by myself, especially on other imageboards. It's rare that a Western BBS would have the same level of good faith about other BBSes as much as Heyuri has, as it's just Heyuri that takes such inspiration from Japanese net, where such an action is actually expected from site admins. That's why I am more inclined to try and attract users from those places myself

>Where is the DRAMA, that made things so interesting?
I don't think there is much space for dorama on Heyuri anymore, internal disputes are rare (at least most my communication is regarding development stuff) and rule breakers are diligently banned so they can't disturb the order.
Also it can seem interesting, but it's usually more likely to just harm teh activity

>that kaguya is willing to confine heyuri to the fate of all small imageboards
I think that happens mainly due to staff neglect. I admit being a lazy person in general, but I don't think actual neglect will be an issue for Heyuri for the foreseeable future. The fact that both me ad mod-san in the thread still making longposts on this very board after 5 years (howevar unreal that feels...) should be the proof

>He rejected the doomsayers who viewed imageboards as a dying format that would never catch on with the young generation. He disregarded endless complaining about "n00bs like me" and sought to build from the ground up, a new generation of young imageboard users who would match and surpass the percieved golden era of imageboards back in the 2000s.

I wonder how it is even possible? I'm old enough to use Win 98 as my first OS. Over the years I've spend countless hours using Web 1.0, IRC, XMPP, etc. I remember the life without a smartphone or the mobile web. But even for me the concept and design of the sited looks dated.

Teenagers nowadays use Discord. Discord "servers" (as they call it) are basically modern-era imageboards. Some of them are really wild! Discord is trendy. It has everything a modern user expects: a native mobile app, a desktop app, a voice chat, "modern" design, etc.. The userbase is large, basically everyone's using it. And you don't have to wait for a reply, you can get an instant attention. It doesn't work well for long-term discussions - but most imageboards are about quick shitposting anyway. And attention span is ridiculously short nowadays.

I just can't understand how are you going to contend with such an established service? How a niche site with an outdated interface can gain any attention at all?

Mind you, I'm not a Discord user myself. I just get why it's so popular.

>I just can't understand how are you going to contend with such an established service?
At least initially, Heyuri didn't contend with dicksword but instead utilized it to our advantage

During teh lolico era, Heyuri had an active dicksword where staff and users would hang out and chat (I never joined it personally, but it was well known and linked here on the site) and it was also the primary place for staff communications. There was webhook set up so that there would be notifications on dicksword every time a new post was made to the website, which is how Heyuri managed to have near-immediate replies on par with sites 10x or 100x our size. Note that messages were also relayed between our IRC channel and teh dicksword, although that feature b0rked at some point

As you might expect, teh dicksword became a source of drama and internet slapfights so at some point in the post-lolico era it was relegated to being for notifications only. It recently got shut down bcuz it was registered under the same account as gurochan's - or something like that. Whether or not it should be brought back (for post notifications only) will likely be proposed at teh upcoming Townhall

>How a niche site with an outdated interface can gain any attention at all?
Many younger people are intrigued by what came before them; many older people have fond memories of what once was

>>68892
Discord is just a chatroom. Chatrooms have coexisted with message boards since the beginning of time.

We love and support dear leader kaguya

>>68894
discord has an expansive featureset that ends up making it much less like a traditional web chat service and much more capable of completely supplanting the site it gets attached to