What a word salad! Spit it out kid, you're free to talk about this nerdy mumbo jumbo if you want, but I can't even tell what your asking!

>>190768
i see. sorry about that, i'm not firing on all cylinders...

but my question was (roughly, on my part): is anyone these days even trying to escape the decades-entrenched norms imposed by the dominance of UNIX (the BSDs, and loosely, Linux-derived systems) over personal computing?

typically i would not contemplate this, though i read about WSL1 (the original, failed Linux compatibilty layer Microsoft released), and apparently it really did translate NT and Linux system calls as a thin layer. but then they gave up, and simply used a traditional hypervisor. not even the POSIX subsystem, as that was gutted from NT by the XP era.

it's a silly and mundane question, of course. nobody is escaping UNIX concepts (everything being a file, C, root/SU stuff) and basic commands. still, i thought it was novel regardless of substance.

No, because they have better things to be doing with their time.

I don't mean to be rude, but what's the benefit of moving away from UNIX? Aside from using windows i've never dove outside of UNIX based systems.

>>190836
None.

>>190836
unix is a 1970's mainframe.
Desktop os's do not need to follow a LOT of the concepts of unix.
One example is the way windows handles disks using distinct paths which is FAR better than having everything mounted to the "root" file system with mount folders.
Even MacOS obfuscates the unixness of the underlying system to make it more like windows, which helps with actual real desktop usage.

>>190874
c: is /
its basically the same. just aesthetic preference

>>190874
>Even MacOS obfuscates the unixness of the underlying system to make it more like windows, which helps with actual real desktop usage.
In what way does it help with desktop usage?

>>190890
Having a normie navigate to D:/ to see their usb drive instead of /mnt/mounteddrive or /run/media/user/UID is a little more intuitive.. dont you think..? I get his point, some of the fundamentals of UNIX are hard for people who aren't already used to UNIX to easily understand.
Applications splitting their files all amongst the filesystem is also a little hard when you have to switch configs, i think it's fair to expect configs to be next to the application in it's own folder, rather than be buried somewhere in the /etc/ directory.

>>190875
bad bait
>>190891
it isn't even a matter of being familiar with unix or being a "normie" Some unix concepts are simply just not appropriate for a personal computer OS unless they hidden under layers of obfuscation thus defeating the unix design philosophy of being able to understand the entire OS.

Pardon the pretension, my inner chuu2 year old is very excited by this subject.
>"In India," said Nopants , "they tie elephants to trees using thin cords. An elephant could easily snap the cord, yet they remain tethered in place. Why do you think this is?"
>Golden Rod itched himself and shrugged.
>"When the elephant is young," intoned Nopants , "she is too weak to break the cord. She tries, but eventually she gives up. When the elephant grows up, she does not try to escape her puny bonds because she believes she will fail."
Every edgy teenager who's read the Principia Discordia has surely a phase where they considered it the coolest thing ever. Our polycule-tech-caste and their loyal GNU/Eunuchs were evidently never gifted with so fortunate a youth, and so when left to continue building out the digital Black Iron Prison we inherited from the 20th century, they were too blind to do anything but keep making it smaller.
>There are necessary limitations your body and mind impose on your perceptions. That’s the Prison What it comes down to, is that you are the one in charge of your Prison. It’s you that has shaped the Black Iron bars that let you see the small parts of the Universe that you base your decisions upon.
Unlike the real world, the world of operating systems, programming languages, user software, etc. is purely the result of human choices and design. A true and malleable Black Iron Prison. So why is all our software half-broken and getting worse year after year?

Why do techfags become violently suppressive persons when asked about non-UNIX paradigms? Basically because you're showing them a way to at least make their cell a little bigger. De-calcifying the pineal gland is physically painful, see. Same reason why asking about OpenGL2 or Windows7 support gets you bovine fluoride stares. The lynching of Flash, the rollout of Wayland, SystemD, etc. Anything to keep making the cell smaller. And because software is just too big for any one man to re-do from scratch, we have no choice but to share the cell with the techfags and hope they don't rat on us trying to Shawshank our way out.

>>190770
>nobody is escaping UNIX concepts (everything being a file, C, root/SU stuff) and basic commands.
"What is it you object to? You want to abolish UNIX?”
“To abolish God!” said Anon, opening the eyes of a fanatic. “We do not only want to upset a few pathing and filesystem conventions; that sort of anarchism does exist, but it is a mere branch of the Nonconformists. We dig deeper and we blow you higher. We wish to deny all those arbitrary distinctions of low and high level, abstraction and bare metal, upon which mere rebels base themselves. The silly sentimentalists of the Suckless Revolution talked of the Rights of Man! We hate Rights as we hate Wrongs. We have abolished Right and Wrong.” Meh, that could've used some work
Point being, you should be willing to open your mind much bigger than that. For instance, your x86 CPU makes no distinction between "data" and "code". I get upset at the very idea of "source files". LISP had a far more advanced, yet conceptually simpler interpreted execution model back in the 70s! But LISP, having been left to stagnate for so long, feels awkward and clunky to use. You can have Emacs turn it into a visual language for you after installing 6 million plugins, but why hasn't LISP evolved into a visual language in it's own right? ColorFORTH should've just been the beginning! Why must we torture the English language into a broken stream of references? (And so on.)
I'm taking a several ideas from this cool "Meta-machine-compiler" project one of the lainchanners wrote:
http://verisimilitudes.net/2017-07-07
And a lot of his other blogposts too. He's still a fag for deleting all my anime reaction images on Lainchan though.

Btw OP I've never heard of VMS before, the clustering ability sounds really cool. Tell us moar!

>>190770
Read Showstoppers