I actually think there's no longer any such thing as an 'alternative scene'. Such things, as they are popularly understood, relied on a certain venue (club, city, town etc) which clustered previously disparate tendencies in one place until suddenly people felt something particular taking shape--basically by accident. Whatever obscure needs or artistic itch was once scratched by the formation of such groups is now handled remotely and in many differing venues dedicated to many different audiences. This is both far more convenient for the individual and far less conducive for the formation of a 'scene'.

Trad goth like this still is fairly rare to see irl truthfully. Either way, like >>189969 pointed out the internet boiled down so many disparate subcultures because people arent materially limited by access to records or zines or to people with a common ideological framework. Instead they can grasp out wherever they want and pull from many subcultures at once. In this sense "alternative" can be a usefull moniker for this type of person, as it points out this (sub?)culture essence as it should be understood as, hyperreal punk culture. "alternative" exists as the SIGNS of punk/goth/emo with none of the body, no scene, no music, no ideology.

Where i push back against >>189969 is when they say
>there's no longer any such thing as an 'alternative scene'.
because there never WAS, at any point, an "alternative scene" but separate punk, goth, emo, post punk, hardcore, screamo whatever else scenes. I also push back against the larger idea that there is no "scene" anymore. There are still many places for punk, hardcore, screamo, and emo. I personally have hosted too many shows to count in my own and friends houses, and played probably 10x that amount. That being said there has been a STARK shift post covid in the size of shows, number of houses or venues hosting shows, and a clear movement toward solo projects and online "scenes" mostly focused around discord servers... Esentially this materially individualizes people who otherwise have a common ideological framework, and that is hurting "the scene" as a wider concept because there no longer is any sense of gatekeeping a scene ideologically which is how you end up with consumerized "punk", showgoers having no respect for bands or venues or eachother (tangential but god i fucking hate crowdkillers, literally individualism materialized. die.), and a focus on appearances rather than actual diy-ing. This was all exacerbated by the nuke that was tiktok spawning a million kids who think theyre punk coupled with what was esentially a massive retirement of scene oldheads post covid, and now all these kids have no one to show them the ropes. Couple this with post capitalist realism too and you end up with so so so many random bands regrouping, so kids dont even form new bands they just fork out insane money to see the Boy Problems reunion or whatever. All of this culmimates with, the festival industrial complex (another essay for another time) with its 10,000$ diy band garuntees and side skirting new bands for reunion bands.

Basically start a band, host a show, open yourself up but be true to your ideals and pass them on.