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isnt it always my dick talking if id only go for a girl as a straight guy? with heterosexuality, the deal is being attracted to girls both sexually and romantically (unless someone is aromantic or asexual). that part makes sense, but why do people who are sexually attracted to a certain gender almost always end up being romantically attracted solely to that same gender as well? why are there so few people who are sexually into one gender but romantically into another, or romantically into both but sexually into only one? i think its because we're driven to develop romantic feelings for someone only when we also feel sexual attraction toward them.

thats why i question whether romantic love is truly a separate thing on its own. to me romantic love just seems like a very deep emotional attachment (what some might call a best friendship) combined with sexual attraction. it feels like romantic love is essentially having a best friend that youre also sexually attracted to. if romantic love were truly independent, why is it so rare to fall in love with someone whose gender youre not sexually attracted to? why do sexual attraction and romantic feelings need to coexist almost all the time if theyre supposedly different things? imagine two people who are exactly the same in personality, one male one female...

it you love one of them, you should love the other too, theyre identical. but as a heterosexual person, one becomes your best friend and the other becomes your romantic partner (think of the dilemma in the lukako route of steins gate for example). doesnt that suggest theyre the same core feeling, and we only label it romantic love because sexual attraction is added on top? asexual people do exist, which shows that romantic feelings arent always tied to sex. still, i suspect genuine romantic love as something fully separate is way less common than society makes it seem. i really do think people who experience romantic love are way less common than we think. i do not think its that common at all.

i think most people are really just experiencing a deep emotional attachment plus sexual attraction, and they call that combination romantic love, get a girlfriend etc because thats what society presents as the obvious and expected path. of course i wont deny that some people do sincerely experience real romantic love. i know about the three mating drives theory, which would explain a lot of what im asking, but honestly i think that proves my point more if anything; it does explain the connection between romantic and sexual feelings, but not in the way im trying to look for. thats way overly scientific, what im trying to do is understanding what romantical love is, as it does not always follow the scheme of the theory. and of course it is something far more intricate than some bunch of dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin. or, let's take the sternbergs triangular theory; i think that scheme highlights even more exactly what i think.. intimacy and commitment form companionate love (one could say a best friend), the addition of passion then leads to romantic love, exactly what im pointing out here

as i said im still, despite all this, of the idea that pure romantic love as a feeling does exist, i simply have a lot of difficulty understanding it as a concept
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I’ve pondered this a bit but certainly not to your degree. You’ve certainly raised a lot of interesting questions. I’ve never fallen in love with someone before (atleast to how it’s been described to me) but the idea of having a best friend to cuddle with is what an ideal relationship for me stands to be.
But I’m autistic so maybe I don’t experience these feelings the same way? It’s as you say, romance cannot be measured nor tracked. I can only guess if I’ve ever felt the feeling.
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>>187145
ive talked about this with a friend also and all she told me was that the only way to truly understand it is to experience it firsthand. i guess neither of us will ever truly understand what romantic love is, i feel like :sweat2:
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>>187144
i think i feel love for my tulpa. i don't feel particularly sexually attracted to her, i just want to protect her because she is the only one who cares about me. she is my life... kinda like a dependency on her.
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>>187144
separate words for a reason lad. having a proper biblical perspective regarding God as love, then the innovation of sexual interactions for the humble created entities as a polarizing manifestation of duality/dualistic mutualism compounding as a creative act would help re-contextualize a lot of what you are curious about regarding what you have typed. the sexual element should be solely embedded within a loving and wholesome romantic relationship because there are higher-highs to be reached by male+female than any same gender combination by design. i'm not experienced regarding homosexuals but through my conjecture it seems they tend to polarize against their gender norms and ultimately aim to fulfill male+female roles or be entirely degenerate, both of which fail to ultimately embody, represent, and reach the intended "peak experience" that physical union is meant to represent. a deep dive into lust and fornication related concepts might help you understand more about the difference between love and shorter duration/smaller scale passions/temptations.
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>>187166
dunno much about tupas but im aware people who feel romantic attraction with no sexual ones do exist, therefore i know romantic feelings are not exclusively a deep attachment + sexual attraction, but in the op im talking more about how "romantic love" seems to be perceived by the grand majority
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>>187167
thank you for the answer! and i should look more into it, but from my general understanding of the role of male and female in christian theology, it kind of comes off to me as superficial, or at least not the answer im looking for. but again thank you for taking the time to respond and i will look more into romantic relationships from the viewpoint of the christian faith, since you did raise a lot of interesting points :biggrin:
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God is fake, lol:tongue:
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>>187192
i encounter a lot in my thinking that makes it seem superficial. men and women are capable of being greatly equal in capacity, but this seems to be endowment due to being created in the image of God, who was originally not really male or female, just spirit. the polarized nature of man + woman is what leads in my eyes to invite room for romance and stuff related to procreation, but each individual is capable of having their own internal romance related dynamics due to the way spirits as composed in the image of God can be distinctly different regarding sub-components yet all accurately support one another as if in the image of a loving family. much of reality flows forth in an image similar to the mind. (the pattern of the mind originating in the shape of God's mind)
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>>187194
My 3000 year old Israeli book says otherwise, checkmate atheists:biggrin:👼
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>187237
take this more seriously!!! haruhi gets crucified in the books, what do you think that means!?!?

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