The American people seem fairly easy to propagandise into wanting war, but they tend to get cold feet once the body bags start returning home. Fighting wars so far from home as a world superpower definitely makes the idea more tempting too

>>169827
it mostly seems to be young americans who get cold feet. boomers and the like have no issue with the body bags. and america is only getting older. just look at all the failed war protests. the vietnam war protests didnt result in shit other than letting boomer druggies link up with other boomer druggies. iraq war protests literally birthed the stereotype of the "twitter activist" who doesnt do shit other than retweet anti war news articles. america will always be at least >50% pro war unless some massive warcrimes occur on us soil against americans.

The holocaust occured in my nation and numerous other war crimes and I also have a unique propensity to war. Lets have a war! Whats so bad about wars anyway? Are you afraid of loud noises?

>>169834
i know you are joking but the one good thing about war is it allows infrastructure to be completely overhauled. its one of the reasons east asia/europe has better public transit than the usa.

war is a natural part of man. wherever there are people, there will be war

>>169878
i agree war is human nature but there is a big difference between 'natural' conflict with spears and bows and shit and the mechanized and industrialized killing machine that is modern war. man was ingrained to fight with bows and spears. being able to level entire cities to rubble in a day is not natural.

>>169938
>being able to level entire cities to rubble in a day is not natural.

Totally not true, back when cities where mostly wooden houses an army could and did burn whole cities to ash in a day

seeing war as bound to happen for the reason of 'just because' is a very dumbed down way of looking at it. war is an extension of politics, and nobody goes to war without a goal in mind. if that goal is vague, ill-defined or unrealistic to achieve then then you has already lost the war.

sun tzu said that. (ﾟー｀)

>sun tzu said that. (ﾟー｀)
then he used his fight money to buy 2 of every animal on earth. and then he herded them onto a boat and then he BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF EVERY SINGLE ONE

>>169825
The various indian wars and decades of raids before/afterwards, concurrent with the settling of north america were equally if not more horrific events than those things you mentioned.

a lot of dumb american christians believe that suicide is an unforgivable sin that will guarantee they will burn in hell for all eternity, so dying in a war is one of their few options to try to escape the living hell that is american life for most people.

>>169982
america has some of the highest living standards in the world. calling it hell is naive, go to sudan or something, thats hell.

>>169983
If you calculate living standards by how many calories you can make yourself obese and sickly with and how many square feet of house full of electronic junk you can have to try to keep your mind off how lonely you are. Only a small portion of americans are attractive and wealthy enough to fulfill their need for love and sex. Africans have different beauty standards so even if all their women look like gorillas, as long as they have asses as wide as a dump truck they're happy. American wageslaves work just about as many hours as third worlders, though usually in more comfortable working conditions, but usually don't have an attractive wife to come home to after work. In some third world countries you can easily buy a loli sex slave if you're too ugly to attract a good wife while in america you're just expected to be alone and miserable forever, or buy nasty whores that have been used by hundreds of other men already, or marry some 35 year old obese woman that's been used by thousands of men already.

What you're talking about is a distinctly American sickness, but I don't think the issue is exposure (or non-exposure) to war. Otherwise the Germans (pre-1945 anyways) and Russians would be the most pacifistic people out there.
Personally, I think it's a combination of Europe sending their adventurers, criminals, and "white trash" over here, and us being forced to fight the Injuns.
>>169983
You ever been to the ghetto, the rez, or to small town America? Those places are hellish misery pits.

Your fortune: Good luck

>>170011
all of those places better than living in a shithole like el fasher, rafah, or bucha

>>170493
Americans usually don't realise that even the most ghettoest of Chiraq pitholes are still preferable places to live in compared to even the rich neighbourhoods of capitals of third world and second world places

atleast in the ghetto you have a way out, Damascus is a dead-end for literally any sort of life activity at this point

>>170500
also 170500 get wtf

>>170500
whenever someone says america is worse than a third world country i stop listening. is america perfect? no. is it worse off than other first world countries? probably. is it worse off than third world warzones? absolutely not.

>>170500
>>170573
Not every third world country is a warzone, obviously living in an active warzone is worse. But in some third world countries you're far less likely to get the tip of your PENIS cut off as a baby, made obese as a child, you're far more likely to have sex with a girl as a teen and not be a virgin in your 20s or 30s, etc. A lot of people would be happier living in poverty than they are being raised by a wealthy family of obese retards. I don't have the statistics but I'd bet depression and suicide rates are higher in america than in most third world countries.

>>170575
and that is to say america isn't poor when 80% of the peoople in the US live paycheck 2 paycheck?

>>170576
80% of people everywhere live paycheck to paycheck

>>170575
what's up with white people trying to glorify the third world like this? None of us get to live out pedophile rape fantasies and none of us are "happy", obesity is a worldwide problem even in Ethiopia, and most Middle Eastern and Central Asian countries have atleast 40% higher obesity rates than the US.

Nobody is happy living in poverty and almost all of us are depressed and suicidal.

>>170581
Pics of large groups of obese muslims or it didn't happen, and not from some oil-rich area. Every man who is regularly making love with an attractive girl who loves him is happier than an obese american man who can only get sex by paying for whores or settling for a woman even fatter/uglier than himself. Most of us only have pedo rape fantasies because that's the only realistic way we can imagine ever having sex with an attractive girl.

>>170621
"and not from some oil-rich area" I invite you to come to Cairo, Beirut or Baghdad at any point in time, go to the streets and try to find one non-gypsy (gypsies lose weight much faster) man who is not atleast 20kg+ overweight. Arab food is heavy on carbohydrates + dense meats and not much else. You can literally Google 'Iraqi Arab Men' and get picrel

"Every man who is regularly making love with an attractive girl who loves him is happier" the concept of love does not exist in traditional Arabic society, it used to at some point during the poetic era of the caliphates, but there is no woman who "loves" you in the traditional sense of what the western world considers love, my Arabic grammar teacher told me when I was 17 that it's best to marry someone you don't love so you will end up tolerating them faster by the time you're 30 (it's expected to stop falling in love with your spouse as though its a normal thing).

Marital relations in the Middle East are as follows: you become 24, you're out of college, your parents pick someone that fits you based on some sort of intellectual eugenics for an arranged marriage, if you like her, marry her, if you don't, you find someone else, if you get a relationship during college, better hope her family is liberal or they're gonna take your girlfriend to an honour killing.

FYI, noone has sex or gets married before 18 anymore unless they're a gypsy or Saharan-tier rural farmer. Your pedophile rape fantasies aren't gonna happen here either.

>>170630
The two on the right don't look impoverished at all, the orange shirt guy would only be considered slightly overweight in america, and the rest of them aren't fat.
>there is no woman who "loves" you in the traditional sense of what the western world considers love
That's just the biological reality of how all women in the world are which is why divorce rates are >50% in america. It's good to hear arab societies aren't all lying about that like the west does.
>noone has sex or gets married before 18 anymore unless they're a gypsy or Saharan-tier rural farmer
I would become a rural farmer then so my offspring could enjoy their youth instead of being 18+ year old virgins.