I don't know whether I should have posted this on /jp/, but I was looking for a book to learn japanese. Sure there are internet guides, and I know that's what people usually use, but I get distracted quickly when I'm learning off the internet. I tend to learn better with physical books. Is there a "all-in-one" sort of book that covers grammar and basic vocabulary? Thanks in advance.Marked for deletion (Old)
use genki i and ii, they're easy to find online have Grammer, vocab, writing, and speaking all in one
>>122159I can second this. I have physical copies of both.
What are you learning Japanese for? Books may be good but they won't have you quickly be able to read ero doujinshi
>>122168im not the person you were talking tobut now that i think about it it will be hilarious that i will attempt n1 and almost certainly pass thanks to cartoon porn and a weird selection of websites i frequent
I do not recommend Genki at all. The first thing they teach you is numbers, date and time stuff (e.g. someone's schedule, etc), and they do it A LOT, for some reason they really emphasize on this topic.Liek what the fuck? It is the last thing I want to learn. It doesn't really matter if I can or cannot say/understand "this shit costs over 9000 yen" or "today is Nov. 4, 2024". Who cares. It won't help you to understand h-manga or eroge.
>>122206Genki is visibly targeted for someone who is going to Japan for school or work, where shit like that is very important
>Genki is visibly targeted for someone who is going to Japan for school or workYes, I get it. That's exactly why I do not recommend this book for self-study.People who learn Japanese by themselves probably aren't doing that to enroll into a Japanese college. That is especially true for heyurians. We just want to read h-manga and play eroge. So the approach should be different.
>>122253where do you recommend starting then
>>122276im not the person you taggedi began with the most obvious grammar videos on youtube, pulling out a jlpt list from 5 to 1 when i got confident enough on ankithere is one good set of over 30000 flashiesyou skip borrowed english words, start small with vocab, do not get overambitious the first weekyou watch more youtube grammar tutorials, when you get frustrated, bored, burned out and disinterested you force yourself to do anki, dont worry about forgetting them the time you close anki, dont worry about relearning basic stuff 10 or a 100 times overdont worry about sucking at identifying spoken words because 10 words have the same readingit takes ages to get comfortable to on and kun yomi and memorizing all of them and then mastering so that despite the same sound pattern you know which of the 100 options it is simply based on the contextrefer to dejikos nazo keitai for getting raped with misidentifying spoken and read japanese and ateji and other rebusesit will probably take you long to read fluently in even hiragana at all timesdont worry about it, kanji comes with getting used to the language and wasting enough time on japanese so that you forcibly memorize themwhen you are quite familiar with readings and the sounds of kanji your brain will wire them together without you noticing it, dont worry about sucking extremely bad for quite some timespeaking and making sentences comes last, little children barely make sentences, you will be like them for a few years after having a good comprehension of japanese no exceptionsif you do not attempt on talking to yourself in japanese you will never speak it, the human speaking module of the brain is hardwired and not made up on the goif you do not try building sentences and describing anything even in your own head you will never speak it wellyou speak english and make sentences without thinking about it, same is the case for any language, if you do not use it enough then no fast stable and reliable neural paths are made and no speaking is possiblei spoke close to no english some 5 years ago, dont worry about sucking and getting frustrated and dropping all hope for fluency, you will get exhausted and drop learning 10 times in a single monththe prize for learning japanese is a very wide range of loli doujins before someone translates them, navigating nico easily, good philosophy materials and there is a lot of iti would suggest following the general rule of chans when learning japanese: dont post the first dayotherwise the embarassment will haunt you at nights for all eternity
>>122168>>122206>>122253 what if, the reason I want to learn japanese is actually to immerse myself in a culture very different from my own, be able to properly appreciate the nuances of japanese prose and poetry and maybe go there to study or work?