>>160310
palemoon is a joke. its old firefox and just breaks on many sites or just fails to do anything, run normal software in a qubes or jail and force it thu a vpn so u get best of both worlds.

removing pulse isn't unreasonable
but removing webp support just sounds like a mistake (・∀・)

>>160311
I compile all of my software from source and modern firefox is a bloated load of garbage and takes too long to build. It also demands rust which is a useless programming language that fixes nothing and is just another burden that slows down the compilation time. PM isn't even that bad and works on most websites I go on even if it loads a little slower and it's the only browser alongside basilisk that has a gtk2 option and I will NEVER use anything made with gtk3 and higher

>>160312
>but removing webp support just sounds like a mistake (・∀・)
It is. It's broken and unusable and I think I'll have to compile it normally again.

>>160313
>Rust which is a useless programming language that fixes
Oh no, you're one of those people, it's surprising that you're normal enough to actually recognise PulseAudio is objectively terrible

why do people hate pulseaudio

If you want it to not crash you have to edit the source http://shystudios.us/blog/palemoon_webp/palemoon_without_webp.html

I don't like a lot of things about the design of Rust, but saying it doesn't solve any problems is... insane, really. Discouraging entire classes of bugs while avoiding performance hits isn't something I'd consider useless.

>>160317
That's what I did. Now I've compiled pm with webp intact and it turns out that wasn't the problem and it still crashes..

>>160315
Rust is ass and everyone knows it. “Objectively” as YOU PEOPLE like to say. Firefox has gotten worse every update since the inclusion of rust. It is also NOT POSSIBLE to compile the rust compiler from source unless you start at some ancient version and continuously compile the next versions one after the other as well as juggling multiple versions of llvm. This might not even be possible at all for some systems which means no rust software can really be compiled fully from source, you are always gonna rely on compiler binaries from someone else. Not that that matters though because no worthwhile software is written in rust to begin with. Writing any kind of complex software in rust will give you horrid performance. Rust solves NO problems that a real proper language like ada had not already solved decades ago in a far more elegant way, ada is also named after a real woman, something rust programmers don’t know anything about. Rust crates have no guarantee that what you download is the same code you expect. Rust is almost entirely used as a high level applications language like java, even though it roleplays as a low level bare metal language. Rust software has constant memory leaks. Rust is part of the corporate take over of free and open source software, it is entirely funded by google ibm and Microsoft. Code monkies love rust software because it must be constantly maintained, due to rust itself constantly changing, thus giving them job security.
I can go on…

I love open sores!

I use pulseaudio because the name is kewler than the alternatives

The crashing is an issue with the compiler. Pale moon compiled with clang doesn't crash while gcc12 does. The browser isn't meant to be build with clang so ./mach build fails

>>160353
oops I meant ./mach package, build werks

>>160322
I've heard parts of windows 11 are being rewritten in rust (;ﾟДﾟ)

>>160357
30% of windows 11 code is apparently written by AI anyway

>>160322

>Firefox has gotten worse every update since the inclusion of rust.
Firefox has been getting worse well before Rust was a thing.


>no worthwhile software is written in rust to begin with.

Niri, literally the only Unix window manager ever worth using in place of a desktop environment, is written in Rust

>Writing any kind of complex software in rust will give you horrid performance
Proof? Rust is 1:1 with C++ in every single benchmark.

>Rust software has constant memory leaks
This literally has never happened.


>Rust is part of the corporate take over of free and open source software, it is entirely funded by google ibm and Microsoft
BSD development is funded by Sony, you prancing lala-corporate slave.

>>160316
It just... Doesn't work, like at all, there's so many problems with it that it's too long to list, for funsies I once tried to get my ThinkPad speakers to work with PulseAudio on Arch, nada, nothing I did could actually get my speakers working under PulseAudio, works immediately under PipeWire however


PulseAudio, like X11, SysVinit, yum, is one of those pieces of software that have been absolute burning piles of trash that overstayed their welcome for the past decade, which no rational person would ever run on their computer, one of the many types of cancer that latched onto Linux/BSD that did not go away until Red Hat forced everyone to use actually functional software

>>160362
it often happens that i have software people tell me dont work that work perfectly on my machine
I dont have pulseaudio right now but i did the first time i installed arch and i never had any problems with it ┐(ﾟ～ﾟ)┌

>>160361
lol you must be a rust n00b like me because you haven't even gotten the official narrative talking points down yet, you probably don't even know why firefox has been getting worse and how rust plays into it in a non obvious way.

No one has ever heard of niri, but it is probably just another flavor of the month toy program that will be broken in a few years like everything written in rust.
Benchmarks are not complex software, and rust had to ultra tune to even come close to the bloated mess of modern c++. Again, any complex software written in rust runs like shit unless you use unsafe or REALLY know how to manage data, in which case why are you using rust?
Not only does rust have major issues with memory leaks, the official talking point of the rust foundation (tm) is that the memory leaks are a feature!

I don't use bsd, im not OP, but please feel free to continue raging against the anon u have invented in ur head noob.
Rust is gay.