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2025/08/24
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>I disagree that moderation needs to go beyond warning/deletion when a rule breakage is clearly accidental or unintentional
I generally agree - warnings and deletions should be the default response for minor & unintentional rule b0rkages. But we should also recognize that even well-meaning users can cause long-term friction if patterns repeat or begin to affect the overall feeling of the community. Think of it like this - imagine you have a pet cat that keeps p00ping outside the litter box. At first you would think it doesn't know any better and just quietly clean up the mess, but over time you'd get tired of it, especially when the smell starts driving your guests away. Eventually you would be forced to take harsher measures like deny its food, and if nothing else works, you would give up and throw it out teh window with a tear on your eye
Sweet Emo isn't quite at that level (and probably nevar will be - I'm not just talking about her posts specifically), but we shouldn't be surprised that regular users are starting to feel overwhelmed or alienated by what they perceive to be AIDS. Absence of one unwanted user can end up making the room more crowded, regardless of how unfair that might seem or how it clashes with your personal view of Heyuri's culture. I'm personally prioritizing quality moar than quantity and don't want to feed the gatekeeping mob either, I'm just saying there should be a time to know when a limit must be drawn (again, I'm not talking about Sweet Emo, hell, such a person may never visit Heyuri but my point would stand)
>one autistic girl with a cartoon frog fetish, who's mere existence provides LOLs and can be easily reined in at any time when it goes too far
I hope I'm wrong - that's fair in theory, but it doesn't seem like all users actually find her posts LOL-worthy in reality
>In that quote I was obviously talking about the kinds of garbage that came with the laissez-faire moderation Vidlii had at the time
It was directly after kuz's post about Roblox kids, so I thought "kids being their retarded, LOL-killing selves" was referring to them. The distinction between Sweet Emo posting her Keroro Gunsou OCs and Roblox kids posting their OC avatars is pretty slim for many users (though personally I like keroro more for being Japanese-made). I don't mean this in a bad way - I think users would tolerate a roblox kid to see if he is willing to adapt. Banning gore and "extreme" stuff is easy, but having a standard (or a community adhering to a standard) is much harder. I'm mostly unsure how far the standards are meant to flex before the tone of this place changes (again, sweet emo is one user who doesn't nearly post enough for this to happen so I'm not talking in her basis)
>but I didn't think they should leave the site because of it - instead I appreciated their enthusiasm and tried to teach them how to make better material
Right, I was also the #1
pesterer
encourager of Usagi-chan to create moar OCs like SWFs at the time (which she did and earned the community's respect!), so I can understand
It's quite obvious that helping users improve is better than driving them out. We just need a shared sense of baseline expectations, we could be risking the site becoming chaotic
why am I still typing when this is the third time I'm mentioning it's unliekly that day would come...
>the "foreign" culture here is the one demanding that Heyuri users who don't fit some kind of 4chan-derived mold get B& from Heyuri
I agree that users calling for bans on things they personally dislike is a problem - but that behavior's been around since teh beginning. Even you used to do it
(;^Д^)
Even the thread you posted that was asking to ban OP quotelinking with noone seeming to oppose... Which once was a bannable offense. Of course, the times have changed and we aren't
that
strict anymore, but one of Heyuri's defining characteristics was abundance of (real) bans u know
>No other staff-san deleted that post either, so you can't just blame me
It's not to be deleted, I just thought it's funny how the phrase "hapyp 2015 my tumblrlicious pals (HEHEH)" perfectly captured that kind of culture
To be clear, I still want to let her post harmless frogs in the degree of not being a board dominance, and will defend freedom of any fetish including toads. However I do think we need to be realistic about how even harmless-seeming posts could cumulatively shift Heyuri's culture that aren't intentional nor immediately noticeable. If we're not mindful, we could end up with a Heyuri that feels less like the one we came to enjoy in 2020 and more like something entirely different, just because no one was paying attention when things jumped the rails.
Ah... I didn't mean to write up another longpost. I wonder how much more of our lives that we'll spend writing posts on Site Discussion@Heyuri
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