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kaguya ## Admin
2024/08/19(Mon)19:31:01 ID:ADMIN
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H.JVFON2 was me on another device
>The thing is, cultures naturally change over time
True, and if there isn't any supervision on what we want allowed and what not allowed, the big culture would just absorb everything. Unlike IRL, our new members weren't kids who were trained to be the copy of their parents and grew up in the same environment as everyone else. They are more like total foreigners who may have opposite values migrating in and bringing their culture with them. Now internet isn't such a serious business, so there are just two things to worry about - their attitude and vocabulary. We mostly have the same opinions about punishing bad attitude and it's been proved to be werking fine for years
>Such heavy-handed tools to "educate" will only sabotage the community's own authentic efforts to establish and determine its own culture
I don't think there has ever been a point where the community didn't make efforts to avoid using a broad "modern slang" since 2020. If anything, I quit being heavy handed about moderating specific vocabulary at some point. I think this (or any, specific details on its working can be changed) tool to give users mere warnings (NOT annoying pop-ups as someone thought above) for stuff they may not even be punished for ignoring fare very light compared to it. It should also be easy to make settings to disable it or make it so it's disabled by default and enable for certain users etc, but I think you're more uneasy about its existence now
>freaking internet Clippy
It could be so Rodoyan or Rebecca Miyamoto lectures instead!
>it's a big turn-off!
>along with a 5-step program on how to "correct" their behavior
Fair! This is the reason I ask for your opinions. I grew up with our teachers/TV etc dictating what words we should use over others (both to protect the original meanings/nuances of them and to purify the language from loanwords), and as the result it was a success and there are times I can't understand stuff written a few decades ago - I think it's a good policy and could just werk on internet (Heyuri) too. Its internet equivalent would be not understanding what young people on other sites* you try to avoid using is trying to tell
I won't name anything specific but suppose Heyuri suddenly got a
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from one of the such sites. Would you really be fine with them bringing in their slang words/way of speaking in general and making their words the new norm on Heyuri, because they don't have a bad attitude? As a user, I'd try to subtly get them to use what we liked to use until they came over. I don't think being a faget like OP who would probably just ban them is a solution, but neither is not giving them any help to adjust. In this light, I think a tool that would help users in the most subtle way is a built-in mechanism for it where only the user would know about their "mistake". Again, it also doesn't need to be a 5-step program but a more simplistic message like "x is z, what you want to say may be y" or even "consider using x instead of y". To give example from one of ur complains from the past (that I now follow myself), it could say "
Seasonal anime
refers to anime airs in one season at any time. if your nuance is something airing in this season, you may want to write something like
currently airing anime
instead.". Who knows, maybe if we manage getting people to follow it, it could eventually lead to a wider adoption of the correct usage on internet
I want to hold a townhall soon, possibly in early September if I can arrange some things. Maybe I will roll a prototype for to give more users idea to have them form opinions a day or two before we hold it if I manage to.
*: I myself was warned by two users for using "platform" instead of "site" in the past, since then I avoid using that word but I'd have preferred there was a non-human system warning me instead of a user after I already made my post
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