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This may be a little too "insider baseball", but if you look at the wider trajectory, it's pretty clear that kuz's involvements with Heyuri (not including the random Rule 8 stuff he posts and his recent "less than effective" efforts to defend his name in the current climate) have been steadily decreasing - both through kuz's own waning interest in Heyuri, and through kaguya's many (but often unseen) behind-the-scenes efforts to de-kolyma-ize Heyuri and to complete the remainder of the transition of full ownership from kuz to him

Now, putting any friendship they might have for each other aside, it's clear that in order for kaguya (or anyone) to one day own Heyuri in its entirety (and thus kuz having no involvement whatsoever), he must remain in kuz's good books and maintain a certain level of mutual trust and respect before kuz even considers. Just think - if I or some random person were to contact kuz, point bananagun at head, and say "ALL YOUR HEYURI ARE BELONG TO US", he'd just LOL and ignore it, right?

The point here is that kuz is never going to give Heyuri to anyone who just asks/demands for it, so diplomacy, politics, and tact are required (or just being friends - that helps too!). Aggression, wild accusations, and calls for revolts/coups are totally useless and ineffective - not to mention they turn Heyuri into a warzone

While I'd be the first to admit that it's very easy to get worked up about kuz and view some of his various actions (whether real or rumored) as "ruining Heyuri", we all have to keep in mind (me especially) that our responses to/about him can equally ruin Heyuri, and can stop the site from being fun for everyone else

Now, this isn't to say we should all just let kuz and kaguya be totally unaccountable and rule over Heyuri with an iron b&hammer - I think they've individually overstepped the mark and exacerbated the situation just as much as certain users and I have, with the careless overuse of b&hammer and the needless antagonizing/ostracizing of certain users in ways that were completely avoidable. I think changes to the current moderation policy (...there isn't one LOL) should be made so that Heyuri doesn't end up making any more enemies out of allies, and so situations like this don't end up going this far, for this long

I'd also like to extend an olive branch to you (assuming you're the anonymous who's been the most vocal about your thoughts on Heyuri meta lately), and ask if you'd be open to a private discussion with me on XMPP (or wherever is convenient for both of us... I'm not very convenient ) where we can discuss Heyuri, your issues, hopefully learn some things/reach some middle ground, discuss PENIS, etc. - if you're interested that is. I'll warn you now though that I'm a shitty and awkward conversationalist