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2021/12/16(Thu)12:08 ID:g5IvCUGI
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>>60904
I started typing up my thoughts as soon as I made this thread, but it quickly became very long and then I became very tired, and since then I've either been too busy or feeling too exhausted to focus on it
Instead of continuing with that essay, I'll summarize the main points of what I wanted to say, and not repeat anything already said by others in the townhall itself:
- My thoughts on rewriting/porting the software are best expressed by this article from the year 2000 on "things you should never do" in software development:
https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/04/06/things-you-should-never-do-part-i/
(TL;DR - DON'T THROW OUT OLD CODE AND START ANEW!!!)
There's no reason to believe that a new script will be any better than what have now (or what we had before, or what we had before that...), but there are plenty of reasons to believe that our current software will be neglected until the new one goes live (which could be months away), that the replacement will be buggy for a long time, that it will be missing key features for a long time (possibly indefinitely like /all/), and that it will take up lots of time and energy from both staff-san and the users for no good reason, burning everyone out and stifling activity. After "TEH CRASH", Strawberry Heaven, the kuz reboot, and the slow and painful switch to kokonotsuba, I DO NOT want to have go through all that rigmarole again - especially not to just get back to where we already are now
- I think HeyuriRemix should at least be promoted and put in the board links before we decide if we want to get rid of it or not - I don't think anyone outside of Strange World was even told about it or shown a link to it until the townhall!
- I largely agree with what kaguya said regarding teh wars and how Heyuri should strive to be neutral/friendly to other sites/admins again, instead of being aggressive-by-default and occasionally picking fights with other sites/admins (which is extremely dumb and paints a HUEG target on our very small back)
- At this point in time, I think giving kaguya the reigns (or anyone else if they have what it takes), even if temporarily, could be a much-needed breath of fresh air - not just for Heyuri, but also for kuz and whatever other projects he has going on. I'd love to see a more active and engaged staff-san on Heyuri like we used to have in the lolico+kuz days, and like what we briefly saw while kuz was on vacation and kaguya was placed in charge. Regular updates and fun/cool things being added, frequent news posts (on Heyuri itself and not some other site), responsive staff-san on /q/, random fun events like CSS hax, and just a general enthusiasm for Heyuri. All those things really made this place feel ALIVE and worth hanging around back in summer 2020, but have scarcely been seen since
- This wasn't brought up, but if the file uploader script that Saint Nakuras was using is too hard to patch, as a last resort we could always switch to something else. While the current version doesn't quite fit Heyuri's aesthetic by default, KENT-WEB's file uploader script seemed to work pretty well in my initial testing, and it was last updated in December 2019. There's totally more uploader scripts out there, but most that I've encountered haven't been updated since teh early/mid 2000s
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